Public Orders will only become popular once people can set quality. Otherwise public orders are dead.
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as a blacksmith I have never found one order.
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They can’t? Well that’s a big oversight. I’ve also never seen an enchanting work order. In fact, it seems pretty empty as a whole.
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yup same with my engineer
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The way I get orders done that me, my alternate characters, nor my guild members can complete is to ask in Trade until someone messages me to take the order then send it as a Personal to guarantee the quality. Did this for my Elemental Lariat quality five yesterday. I just don’t want to be duped/scammed, and being able to set minimum quality ensures that I am getting what I am paying for both in the high quality reagents and commission fee.
All the leatherworking work orders I’ve seen have been for things that weren’t even available to get at the time as they were all Vault drops before the raid was even out, most everything else I see is very high/max rep recipes.
Honestly I think the feature is good it’s just for me I can no longer compete since I didn’t no life the reps at launch and thus don’t have the LW skill to make what people want at the quality they want.
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I love the idea of the system, but it’s kind of a mess. We’re supposed to specialize, but if we specialize early we cut ourselves out of getting more patterns. The current demand is so low for crafting orders that it discourages specialization and pushes you toward unlocking as many patterns as quickly as you can to get access to more orders.
I’ve only filled 3-4 orders since launch despite spending quite a bit of time looking for orders. I’m not sure if it’s because they overestimated the order demand or because they gave us too many orders and so a minority are filling all the orders, or if the system just isn’t popular. We’re a about a week into raid and mythic plus so the natural demand should have started coming online. WRA is a high pop server and I nothing is happening.
And yeah, you can’t specify quality. That would have encouraged specialization over unlocking as many patterns as possible so it’s anyone’s guess why they went the other way. I suppose they wanted people to discover organically who the best crafters were and then send them personal order and referrals. That or they wanted folks to use trade to arrange personal orders with quality guarantees.
The system needs some refinement. I love the crafting system in general, it’s just the orders that think need some work. 
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Imo the following changes are needed:
- quality reduction on recraft should not be possible
- customers should be able to set minimum quality on public orders
- profession leveling should be reworked to not be dependent on crafting orders
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Yeah if we can’t do that, I would never place one
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I agree! I hate spamming /trade looking for a crafter who can create max quality on an item so I can create a personal order for that crafter. I am hoping there is an update to this system soon. Whoever did BETA totally missed the boat on this and did not give feedback LOL.
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I just fill my own Private Orders. Easier that way and it’s worked out very well.
They do need to cut the Primal Chaos requirements in 1/2 however.
there are two options to set a min quality on orders - guild and personal. I see no reason for public to have min quality. You people asking for this are creating your own problems because people need those orders to be able to make higher quality items.
Remove the ability to skill up you will pay higher commissions and wait longer.
I have placed two public orders and had no problems with the results I obtained. I will have to upgrade one later but by that time my own alt will be able to do it.
I need to have gear crafted so I can raid with max quality gear and to that end I am willing to pay the commission commensurate to the item I am needing to be crafted.
So in that regard, why can’t Blizzard give the same drop down selections for Public Orders for quality requirements it allows for guild and private orders? Let the buyer choose whether they want rank 1 > 5 and pay the commission they want to pay.
I don’t see the point of that argument, really, with all due respect.
As I said, I see a lot of “Looking for crafter who can make max quality” posts in /trade when this searches can easily be remedied by making the option added in the Public crafting model, and it saves the buyer time during their day instead of spamming trade.
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and if you see a lot of those types of posts in your trade chat (I see only advertisements for people looking to make things), have you ever considered maybe no one or very few people on your server can make them so having an option won’t do you any good and the people who want to max up their skills so they can do it won’t be able to.
If you are raiding why the heck is your guild so defective that no one in the guild can make these?
One thing that is making things more obvious is that blizzard has no clue what kind of mess they have made with connecting servers. They took 8 poor raiding servers where most people crafted and combined them in my case so there is an over abundance of people wanting to make things and a lack of buyers. And other people’s servers maybe the opposite.
Also do you realize that crafted gear can’t be made into tier by the catalyst happening in 2 weeks so that maybe be the last place you want to be even getting your gear anyway. I thought raiders got gear from doing mythic plus now.
I got beta access ~5 days before launch. I didn’t bother even installing it because what’s the point so close to launch? I’d have to RUSH to level everything up and test stuff with zero chance that any feedback I might give would be implemented for launch. Might as well wait for live at that point. 
they didn’t have work orders running for months - they had a weekend of focused testing to see if the system would work. Plus min levels were suggested but blizzard correctly disagreed and nothing was changed.
This gear isn’t supposed to replace raiding gear - it is only supposed to supplement it.
I am betting that poster wants gear from the raid patterns at R5. Even on my server there isn’t anyone doing that or very few because the patterns went to raiders who didn’t spend hours and hours leveling up professions. If a fix needs to be made, it is to take those patterns out of raids and put them in the content the crafters typically do, i.e. world content.
If people don’t mind waiting and paying more, that’s fine though. There’ll still be plenty of folks who don’t need max quality to get skill ups from.
You can dance circles around the issue all you want, the truth is that nobody in-the-know uses public orders and therefore the system of needing to fill orders to complete weeklies is massively scuffed, all because Blizzard doesn’t allow public work orders to set quality. You can argue until the cows come home that it is fine, but the end result shows that it is not fine.
Like, people on this forum are very weird about this sort of thing. They’ll take a position that something bad for the game, unfun, jank, and basically something objectively being underutilized are driving players away from the game is fine because… they say so. I guess on this forum you’re allowed to have whatever opinion you like, but there’s such a thing as a dumb opinion and saying public orders are fine definitely qualifies.
I’ll just close my argument in saying that we know that public orders are almost certainly getting looked at with 10.1 with the Profession Update so this argument is mostly moot.
the public system isn’t MEANT for raiders and raid quality gear isn’t MEANT to be easy to get. Not everything in this game is meant for you and not everything in this game should be ruined because of your min/maxing
I’ve only dabbled a little in it and same here, haven’t seen a single order(except the ones sent by myself /sigh). I’m guessing people are only looking for certain things or whatever, maybe I’m just using it the wrong way.