Q5 blacksmith weapons impossible to guarantee?

So, I’m not sure if I had this issue before, pretty sure I didn’t but I want to ask here, I have full talents for weaponsmith, a Q5 Weapon (any 447 ilvl) with treatise Q3 and embelishment, is asking for 390 skill, myself with everything I know I can have, full talents, illustrious insight, even 5 extra points (for lightforged draenie) I still miss 8 points, I dont get it, how can I guarantee this? or is it a bug? or an extra item I should use?

I think crafting the highest item with frills will require inspiration and rerolls to max out. Did you fill hammer control points ?

I can Q5 every in every other proffesion, except for blacksmith, so I dont think is reliable to depend on inspiration

It is far from impossible to guarantee them. Provided you are willing to gamble your own money to make it happen. But yes, you cannot “insight and out” at 447 + embellishment.

What you can, and should, provided you have a 40%+ inspire is load up on R2+ mats, name a price that is atleast 3-5x the cost of a recraft (hopefully it’s not Obsidian Seared), and keep smacking it with incense down at your feet.

Very rarely have I seen anything go past 5 recrafts. Mettle FTW here still.

Again, ALL other crafts from all other profession (maybe even armorsmith) can be guaranteed with max mats, max talents and insight, I see other BS supposedly guarantying q5. On last season I could guarantee q5 weapons with embellishment and treatise, so is not “far from impossible” as I said before I’m missing 8 points, that I don’t understand where to get them, what I want is for other BS that can confirm if they can, or if it is a bug, I’m not looking for opinion, just facts

No. Last season you could not “100%” guarantee a concentrated infusion + embellished + missive Blacksmithing Crafted weapon either. Since difficulties did not change, it should not be possible this season. I’ve been maxxed on all that stuff for a while.

Sometimes people, like myself, leave out a missive in their initial craft and if it does not need a missive, that can make a world of difference. Especially here.

Should you be a Dark Iron or Lightforged, you could get another +5 skill, which would get you 3 points short, and I have NEVER seen it not give an extra +5 skill when needed.

Others who guarantee such crafts, like myself, are re-rolling the dice with their own mats and mettle to fulfill a guarantee.

Both last season and this season you could not guarantee max ilvl with an embellishment with BS weapons. If you do it without embellishment, then yes it is guaranteeable. Armor (Base difficulty 280) is guaranteeable with embellishment, but weapons (base difficulty 300) are not (and were not last season…same issue with concentrated primal infusion weapons in BS). LW weapons (The bow) are base difficulty 280, so they are guaranteeable with embellishment. I don’t know the other professions well enough off the top of my head.

Fare answers, I’m pretty sure I could, but since I have all profession on many alt characters, I could be misremembering, either way right now I can make: LW bows asking me 370 skill, inscription staffs and off-hands asking for 390 skill, even I could make the ENG guns which asks 410 skill, So yeah, wtf is wrong with BS?? Also, you can’t complete and order asking for Q5 guarantee relying on inspiration, so that’s also a problem from the buyer perspective, is so weird.

I ALWAYS tell the customer to set min quality to R4 or lower regardless, and I WILL make it R5 one way or the other before they ever see it again. R2 molten primal is pocket change anyways, so I’m only sweating it when an Obsidian Seared item floats my way.

Previously, last patch (if it is even gone yet), there was a problem when recrafting, in that any change of embellishments, infusions, etc cosmetically kept the difficulty of the removed/replaced items preventing you from recrafting it regardless so most people with a clue will do this anyways.

So as of today I just made a 447 weapon with embelishment and missive, 100% guarantee, so either there was an issue an it was fixed, or the issue is with recrafting only

it was hotfixed like last week

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