The changes with 10.0.7 have really turned PvP for the worst. A week ago things felt somewhat balanced with a few outliers on bottom and top. Now the outliers have changed and are way ahead in performance (Resto shaman, Arms Warrior, Ret Paladin) .
Ret especially, but I’ve been getting hit with some pretty hefty mortal strikes as well, both classes seem they are doing way more damage and are a lot harder to kill.
Man pvp is terrible , lets be honest there are only like 5 classes that are actually viable for pvp .
Arms actually got nerfed and mine is unplayable right now in shuffle. I die through every defensive I have, some being 3 min CDs, to ret’s 1 min CD. If I barely make it through the first avenging wrath, the second definitely kills me.
I totally agree. Although there definitely was outlier’s, at least you saw quite a representation of different builds and classes in each bracket. Even if only some of the classes were viable in very high rated pvp at least it wasn’t just ret/(insert class here). Blizzard went the wrong way and totally unbalanced the crap out of pvp.
I think it has to do with healing changes
PvP was good only the first 2-3 weeks of the expansion when no one had tier set bonuses
Warriors seem to always sneak by. They’re a healthy balance of damage and counterplay.
Resto shamans seem so good but their games last for so long. Good ones can really nullify DPS it seems but their lack of CC Doesn’t contribute to any kills. The game just goes.
Maybe for YOU it was but honestly Ret is the most fun it’s every been!!!
Its very fun for rets I’m sure. Problem is not for everyone else, pushing changes like this without testing them in arena or responding to PTR feedback on it causes people to quit the game.
How does a rework effect everyone elses fun if there class didn’t change? Honestly confused by this take.
Because everyone other class is getting one shot in less than a second through multiple defensives by a class you cant kill
Mmmm I find that hard to believe to be honest. Maybe their just using their defensives wrong and need to evaluate theyre own play in my honest opinion
Love all these posts by people with selective amnesia. All acting like ret is the first spec to be wildly overturned this expansion.
The last time we saw a class be this dominant was maybeee week of shadowlands sub rogue but even then that class could at least die
If you lose a game right now as a ret and its not versus another ret your monitor has to be off.
It isn’t but its by far the most overtuned
Demon hunters were like 30% of the solo shuffle ladder for weeks. Fury was globaling people with 2 buttons a Swifty macro. Did you just not play earlier in the season or are you part of the selective amnesia epidemic?
you could kill DH’s and Warriors tho, they didn’t have an immune that they could one shot you during
In prepatch?? Who cares.
If youre talking about Dragonflight release its not even close to being a comparison.
The premade 3s ladder rn is Ret/X EVERY game
If dragonflight release DH was S+ tier then this version of ret is S++++++++++++++++ tier
Who said anything about prepatch. You can go watch old clips from earlier in s1. Fury and DH were doing the same meme damage as ret does now but with 200% more mobility and self sustain.
Nah not the same at all. Wasn’t nearly as bad. Rets are literally in a “oops did I just do that?” after killing 3 people less than a second state