Surv got absolutely smashed…
I cant believe they crushed us this hard, and yet they kept Shell Cover in the game… Pathetic balance.
They are doubling down on HUGE aimed shots with LONG cast times 
Maybe it’s time to switch to Lock n Load? Haven’t played a single arena with this talent this patch, but I really don’t want to drop Aspect of the Hydra for it
Nerfing Tensile bowstring was strange, but somehow it makes sense:
- if they nerf Aimed shot baseline, the non-cheese aimed shots become too weak
- if they nerf Improved spotter’s mark by, say, 50%, everybody goes back to playing pet, which they don’t want
- Bulletstorm and Incendiary ammo already nerfed by 50% in PVP
- Double tap already nerfed by 50% in PVP
- Improved streamline already nerfed by 50% in PVP
So the only 2 aimed-shot buffing talents they could nerf were Unerring vision (pretty much expected by everyone) and Tensile bowstring.
loving those ret buffs! Now just need some stam buffs and a slight movement buff and might be GG
It seems like we have options outside of stacking mastery but I’m looking for others take on these changes. How do you see Ele gameplay changing in PvP?
Seems like it’ll be better. They’ve been a bit lackluster but this will give them a bit of a bump.
I’ve seen ele stack haste tho.
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Yeah tell me about it with it being lackluster… I feel like a wet noodle out there.
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Use both of them
Venruki said ele is actually not bad, it’s only ele players colluding to cry for buffs
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It’s definitely worse than last season but maybe that’s a good thing. Also the way primordial wave works now is kinda weird and I haven’t seen eles talk about it much but I can see them being upset about it.
They should definitely be careful about buffing it too much because ele has already been S tier for a while and they need to actually balance it so it’s healthy and you can’t get one shot during an ascendance proc.
Yeah, I think the main takeaway was that players should adjust to the new playstyle the way prim wave is, otherwise ele is not that bad according to him
Ele honestly doesn’t seem as bad as most shamans are claiming. The prim wave change 100% warrants complaints, but it’s overall damage isn’t terrible.
Ele’s biggest issue atm is it has no finishing power, and its sustain while not terrible isn’t high enough to be overwhelming in terms of pressure, buffs will prob help its sustain more than burst/finishing power.
Prim wave is just a nothing ability on ele atm, It just exists, it fills no real role for the spec outside of activating ancestor for farseer. It’s just bad design and should be changed to something else. Even just making it a 0dmg global that AoE applies flame shocks would be immensely better than what it currently is.
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Maybe target something else?
Wait really? Why? They buffed DHs recently by like 25% but that was to compensate for a huge loss on AMN… hmm weird
Meh, the nerfs to disc aren’t detrimental by any means. I’ll bet they’ll still be S-tier given the kit we have.
Versus I still won’t bother with my rDruid.
What do you mean by 60 second trinket? What are u talking about?
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See that’s what I’m saying I see no reason to nerf spear head tbh and they did for whatever reason.
Read a little more carefully, lol. It’s just fixing the CD interaction between trinket & human racial, so that the latter isn’t literally useless as a healer.
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You right I glaze over patch notes 80% of the time so numbers just stand out.
Yeah idk its a random nerf. really weird
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We might as well make 1 melee, 1 caster and 1 healer tbh. Because weirdly enough, from seeing all the melee on the forums they all want their class to be the exact same.
All melee want giga mobility, giga tanky because mages/dragons bad! Can’t connect to zugzug. They want fat crits and to be able to delete someone once they connect to them.
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