Amen to this lol!! Just finished Rank 14 before this “fix” and thank god I finished when I did.
Great job Bliz, this “hotfix” will really help the pvp state of the game. Keep up the good work! Lol
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You Solely blame blizzard for this but its the player base making it that way. The grind is ONLY as bad as the hardest grinder wants to make it be. Yes there is a minimum honor you need for r14, but its much much lower than current brackets. Basically you can blame toxic other players for it. Blizzard can change their behavior if they change the whole system but it is 100% the player base making ranking take all day and giving no time for outside life.
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First, I never put the blame on blizzard solely. (I made another post that you most likely missed where I stated customers share the blame)
Your argument is not grounded in reality. You may not be familiar enough with what bracket boosting is, how rank points work, and what the pvp honor grind is like above rank 8 or so to understand how the system is the main driver that promotes a few toxic players to create an unhealthy situation.
Players found a way to reduce the horrific amount of time required to rank to an amount of time that is still much more than a majority of players are going to commit to. No one is harmed at all by bracket boosting.
What is your reason for not supporting bracket boosting?
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ive noticed alot of players that dont have time for ranking have such a disdain for players that do, and constant call backs to how much more hardcore they are than we and alot of “back in my day we walked to school in a blizzard uphill both ways” stories
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I agree with everything you said until the last part. “This decision was reckless and…” I think is a overreaction.
No we are not buying shadowlands. No we are not buying shadowlands. No we are not buying shadowlands. No we are not buying shadowlands. No we are not buying shadowlands. No we are not buying shadowlands.
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Classic pvp has always been about who can put in the most time to rank up. You can get a r14 with like 200k honor a week if NOONE else is grinding more. The insane honor levels required are simply made by who wants to fight it out for that top slot. With the crunch there is less top slots so competition increases. Yes the player base makes it unhealthy but its 100% player agency to do this.
If you don’t want to compete with the people that play unhealthy amounts of pvp to get r14 maybe r14 isn’t the thing for you.
The game should ultimately be played for fun, if other peoples play styles impact you so much its no longer fun for you. Maybe this MMO isn’t the game to be playing.
This mmo in vanilla was about community, its literally why I came back to the game instead of playing retail which i havent for many expansions.
I’m sorry the pvp community makes the game trash. If that community isn’t for you then its probably not for you to push rank, and un healthy even to try.
It’s why I’ll never bother to push for ranks.
I just pvp with the boi’s from time to time. If its queuing with 1 other person or 5. Whatever we feel like to have fun cause ultimately it’s what games are for.
Take all the warlord gear away from the people that benefitted from pool boosting then. Aka Onslaught from Skeram that pool boosted with 30k bots per week and STILL get to keep their R14 gear.
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Hey Risky, to put it into perspective, I’ve been playing 8am-Ghost every day for br1 and this is day 7 of that. It’s not healthy, something needs to be done. I’d type something more thought out, but I’m too exhausted to even think.
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And that sucks, really it does but your competing against other players for a title. Its the same spirit as people that set speed runs goals and compete against other guilds for them.
They created their own community and they’re playstyle is their choice. It’s all player agency.
its nowhere near the same and u have no idea what ur talking about.
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I mean pvp is the same thing it was in vanilla a time sink against all the other people that want to time sink over the title/gear. It was like this from the beginning of classic too, you just had padding now you don’t.
Still the same player base, still the same bracket breakers the community tried to police and control it again like they did in vanilla.
Just because previous to the change it was easier cause more rank14 slots, doesn’t mean it fundamentally changed anything with the player base. They just literally can’t exploit the system as well anymore with few people.
how many times have u ranked?
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None in classic cause I knew it would suck the joy out of the game for me.
I did in vanilla and it did suck the joy out of me while I did it back then. But teenage me was more tolerant of that.
so u have no idea what ur talkin about . got it
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No I actually understand how the system itself works number wise. There are plenty of rankers that dont understand the math of ranking.
They are not mutually exclusive.
but u have 0 experience ranking in classic and what its actually like, you played on some backwater vanilla server and are coming telling us your opinion. u have no place in the convo
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Ranking in classic should suck as much as did in vanilla.
The system hasn’t changed except an exploit they removed this week.
I’m sorry the player community makes pvp ranking miserable, but it is their fault. GO back to retail if you want well developed pvp systems.
But those are skill based, so that’s probably why your hear cause you think r14 means talent.
the level of players, caps, etc, u never had that in vanilla, u had people that didnt know how to attack someone if they walked behind them
unless u world pvpd, stayed up 48+ hours in av meta to combat breakers, or even just take part in current ranking, u have no place in the convo.
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