Why make this change in DF after so many years? One of the joys of ranking up and getting higher rating was to get higher ilvl equipment.
Edit: Oh gosh the level of toxicity in this thread… Anyways, here are the points I wanted to make:
1st point is that it doesn’t seem fair for people to just “Conquest Cap” and get highest level ilvl pvp gear. For people who don’t know what “Conquest Cap” is - it is literally losing games in arena on purpose just so they can play an easier match the next one and win, thus capping conquest really fast. In a short amount of time, people will be fully decked out in highest level 424 ilvl conquest gear versus people who do Heroic or mythic raids, spend so much time getting their items, only to be at the same level as someone who conquest caps and easily upgrades their conquest item world ilvl.
2nd point is that one of the joys of an mmorpg is DOING work and time to get that high level gear. That is the reason why players, myself included, put in the time and effort to get higher rating and get that higher ilvl gear - the CHASE and the work up is the most FUN and once you are able to get that item it’s so rewarding. Now in DF, there’s no CHASE, but ez pz conquest capping.
And for all of those people who assumed I enjoy stomping on lower geared people in random BGs, nah not really - who enjoys winning against or killing 40k hp characters? lol @people who be replying and changing my original post to insert their own words and change what I said - geez.
I understand if arenas puts everyone on the same ilvl - that totally makes sense. However, shouldn’t people have the joy of having higher ilvl gear b/c of the work and effort they put in, not b/c of ez pz conquest capping?
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We’re not the target audience anymore. Hopefully Riot’s MMO will be decent.
no, nobody enjoys this. Absolutely awful playing with low gear getting one shot by 1300 pver’s 0 fun involved.
then super boring doing the same when ur geared. Fair matches thx
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yea you do the work to get some decent gear - is that not what a MMORPG is??? Do some grinding and play some games to get some decent gear. It’s not that hard to get decent starting pvp gear, you can even have your main use extra conquest to buy your alts the unranked pvp gear. It doesn’t make sense to give everyone the same ilvl pvp equipment. People who cry about getting 1 shotted are probably the people who don’t even pvp that much and just want good gear with minimal effort? I feel like the people who like this change are only the people who do PVE or bad PVPers.
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for perspective since you bring it up im not a god, im 2.2 xp on every class, but yes i want templates or just free full gear so i can just play arena without having gear disparities.
WoW is not a mmo to me it’s just arena. That’s literally all i enjoy about it
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its actually imo the other way around. Usually bad players with 0 xp want to have gear give big advantages so they can spam random bgs and feel good about themselves despite being bad at the game
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Imagine being upset that there’s no longer a gear disparity to help you crush more skilled players than yourself. All anybody wants is an even playing field, and I’m all for it.
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this will just make everyone play the good specs
Farming hours and hours just to try and be on a leveled playing field isn’t fun or fair.
Makes it hard for alts also.
Going to enjoy the change.
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Gets Duelist in 2’s as a Prot and DH: "By the sweat of my brow, and an honest day’s work I reserve the right to trample noobs in random BGs!’
Take your nose to a corner somewhere.
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Why are you getting one shot by them If you’re better than they are go get geared
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there is no problem in your logic, the problem comes when the gear gap is so ridiculous huge as it is right now, as blizzard has said ever 1 iLvL difference is approximately 1% damage difference, so right now a 0cr player with 288 iLvL against a 2100cr player with 311 iLvL have a ~25% less damage, less healing, less max health, less versa, less everithing.
Is like fighting a paladin with perma-wings but additionally if they decided to burst they’ll have doble wings … or trying to fight a warrior but you are gonna have the colossus smash debuff the whole match except for the times of the match when you will have 2 times this debuff stacked.
So de gear gap is so huge that does not make any sense anymore because there is no posible way in which you can win the match and this only pushes new, returning or existing players away from PvP permanently
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I mean if somebody in questing or honor gear pops into dragonflight or mop arena versus even a 1300 rated player with full conquest gear then a similar thing can occur. 
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Maybe I’m misreading but while gear mattered the higher you got in mop I don’t think it was the end all be all
Was probably due moreso to the fact that ilv didn’t increase so drastically every patch but I remember hitting 2k in 2s as aff ww in mostly boosted greens and whatever pvp gear I had been able to afford by that time
Hoping df doesn’t have as drastic ilv changes
The DF system was how pvp gearing was till here recently and It is also the best means of gearing in my opinion.
Secondly getting higher rating used to come with several perks that average players wouldn’t have like unique armor sets, titles and flight speed back in the day the glad title carried a much larger prestige.
Get all the relevant engineering gadgets stockpile on saltwater / healing pvp potions and be skill capped at your class mechanically and you will still stomp everyone in random bgs regardless of other people’s gear especially on the raid boss class that is dh
Eh… this change if anything, will reveal to many people that its thier own ineptitude and not an ilvl discrepancy to blame for their poor performance in pvp endeavors.
While bad players will realize it was the ilvl discrepancy that was making up for player ability.
Class/spec balance not withstanding ofc.