PVP is Dying because

Mainly in Solo Shuffle but overall Healers matter to much and are the only reason games go on so long and they effect the game way to much, they either need to add more healers or tone them down its boring game play and it’s all reliant on one player, no matter how good your dps plays the game continues to feel and play the same because its up to healers in just about every game mode.

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Based.

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Its nice to outskill my fellow healer instead of full damping the game, most dps like hunters/mages/locks can 100% win the game for their teams though.

Why?

And healers do need nerfs in literally every game mode.

Nerf healers and buff hybrid healing.

PvP isn’t dying, it’s the end of the season.

Don’t act brand new.

The amount of 0-6 DPS I’ve had where the healer has zero power has been kinda insane. Shuffle I think the DPS has huge ability to impact the game.

In blitz rogues>healers>all I agree.

It’s interesting… Healers can just insta top everyone outside of cc. I was watching somebody and they were talking about how healing back in the day was more about who could be the most efficient with their heals which was better. Hard to know if that was nostalgia talking as dampening was huge and drink meta kinda suck…

Sounded good in theory though.

Hey, I remember you! You were that guy who paid for a boost and raged out when people pointed it out! Welcome back, dude!

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DPS have a very small impact on anything in the game, if you are having issues with dps then you aren’t healing well enough on even a basic level.

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:dracthyr_a1: :mag_right: :pancakes:

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Huh? I must be understanding you wrong.

I play both DPS and heals to about the same rating.

To pretend you have “very small” impact is kinda silly. You have zero impact on 0-6 healers but healers have zero impact on 0-6 DPS. You have impact on everything in between.

Sorry you feel so hopeless lol

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either we all agree people play at the beginning of the season when its all new then drop off till MMR picks up at the “end of the season” or we dont. Please dont back peddle on this narrative. After the first month guarantee 20 threads will have people saying “oh its cause people are waiting for inflation” just to get to the end and you to try and say its not dead its just the end. its either super active right now cause inflation is at peak and everyones pushing for rewards, or its dead.

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I’ll just say that pvp outside of dampening is just stupid thx to Dragonflight healer changes. Ik it’s the arena forums but what a mess healing has become outside of instanced pvp w/o dampening.

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It’s not an either-or. People do wait until the end of the season when inflation is at its peak, but if it’s not inflated enough people quit instead of caring.

The little to no impact for DPS narrative is always funny.

Homie is acting like multi-glads luck out in lobbies lol.

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Healers shouldn’t matter as much as they do. I remember the days when you could actually kill one in the opener if they made a mistake

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:face_with_raised_eyebrow: do you actually believe this or is this a troll? I don’t know this person.

I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again, once add-ons are pruned this should be fixed - hopefully.

Healing is as strong as it is because of how spiky PvE is and the absurd amount of damage in high-keys. That element is there to compensate for stuff like DBM and WA’s as damage isn’t completely scripted and forces players to, well, actually play the game.

Once those add-ons are gone/pruned, encounters can be more scripted and the damage can be potentially scaled back, requiring less healing which would effect PvP.

Fingers crossed it’ll also allow stuns and snares to be pruned as well since they’re mandatory in keys to prevent absurd damage abilities.

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If you make healers have less impact, then DPS specs will naturally now have even more impact. This means instead of being mad about healers, people will instead be more angry about DPS power disparity than they are even right now. It also means no one will want to queue healer like, at all.

This whole premise is completely flawed and really doesn’t solve the problem it sets out to solve.

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They need to add more healers then.