Pvp is ... broken and dead

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Arenas :
Paladin healer doing 500k+ dmg in 20sec. (updated - they are doing almost 1m dmg now)

4 Sec greater pyro. from mages = 35% life dmg. With a rogue in the arena = gg.

Healers - Druid , priest, paladin or shammy have eternal mana. They can heal 2m. of the dmg in about 30 sec of fight with 90% of mana saved.
(updated , with the right azerite in x2 healers have eternal mana; x3 is the only way to drain all mana of a healer)

Took a lot of work to kill ONE druid healer with me and a shammy friend at the same ilvlā€¦
(update, itā€™s way better to focus a DPS becase healers canā€™t die right now, even if you do 60~80k dps in the procs/burst window - the number depends on what dmg ADDON you use)

DHā€™s can evade and fly, paladins tanks do a great dmg and can use 3 bubble and paladin healers are doing almost the same dmg that an average dps.

DKā€™s have icebound fortitude based on % of the dmg and AMS blocks an amount of magic dmg. Paladins, hunters, rogues, dhs, have defensives to block 100% of magical or malee atacksā€¦and thatā€™s give to dkā€™s the most poor defensives around.

Warriors got buffed so x2 with two fury warriors are a win for sure.

Warlocks can use 7 (yep, 7) chaos bolt at the start of the fight with the correct procs and can obliterate one target in less than 10 seconds.

Casters are not being used at pvp because they su** right now and shadow priests are out of the runā€¦
(update, DESTRUCTION warlocks is the only viable caster right now in pvp - shadow priests. elemental and balance are really bad, REALLY BAD, specially shadow priests)

The big problems :
Greater pyro from fire mages (the only dps caster that are overkill);
Druid healers;
Paladin healer overpower in dmg.

In the 8.2 , shamans and moonking druids as casters are ok . Now they su**.

The best classes on pvp now are - rogues, dhs, paladins, monks, warrios, survival hunters, and any healer.

The rest depend on the timer and the procs.
ā€¦but shadow priests have no hope in this gameā€¦

Cā€™mon blizzardā€¦

And yes i used the in-game sugestion.

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PVP is in a poor state right now. And it will only worsen as the month drags on IMVHO.

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Dude didnt even mention bears or corruption gear and the list already made pvp look bad enough lol

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Anyone else remember how frustrating it was to wpvp a blood dk in Legion? Or an affliction lock?

Every spec seems to have its day. I sometimes wish mine would have its, but whatevers Iā€™m enjoying what I got.

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PvP has never been even close to balanced, but itā€™s particularly bad now because there are so many random effects going on (Azerite traits, Corruption, etc. etc. etc.) that itā€™s near-impossible to tell what is even happening half the time, including with our own characters.

I havenā€™t played PvP seriously since the Burning Crusade, when I did arenas competitively, and even then matches were imbalanced and, frankly, rather stupid (warriors + druids were pretty much the only 2v2 way to go if anyone wanted to be top-tier). Given the utter chaos that is even 1v1 world PvP, I can only imagine how insanely hard it would be to make sense of arenas and competitive PvP now.

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PvPā€™s just trash right now. Itā€™s clear PvP has been abandoned, just like the ending of the expansion, and some of the systems.

All that matters to Blizzard currently is centering all of their attention on horrific visions and the mythic world race comnig up next week. Mythic raid balance will be the next time we see something involving a balance patch. Which will likely just result in people being buffed and making the game even more ridiculous.

Iā€™ve - unfortunately - lost all faith in Blizzard involving PvP balance. And without the returning class specific sets, trophies and motivations to make PvP fun and interesting will vanish as participation continues to dwindle.

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I donā€™t even think the PvP devs are still working on BFA at all. I think they left a long time ago to work on Shadowlands instead

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I really wish we could have 1 expansion where pallys arent walking gods and get about 3 chances at life before they finally die.

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arena seems really dead on alliance

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Youā€™re a DK with decent gear and youā€™ve somehow managed a 29% winrate in 2ā€™s. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: This is on you, champ.

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Tbh, I had no idea that those were even a thing anymore.

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itā€™s hard when all the comps that we face (me and a shammy friend ) are f. mages+rogues - dh+paladins - warrior + h. priests - paladin + h. druid - f. mage + paladinā€¦
There is some monks and warlocks too, and they are out of touchā€¦

Anyway, if any other class enter in the pvp i can fight pretty wellā€¦put one good rogue and one good fire mage andā€¦itā€™s done. Canā€™t move, canā€™t do anything, one ring of frost, two free greater pyro on the faceā€¦

Itā€™s ridiculous right now.

I breake one CC , they have two or three moreā€¦in a matter of 10 seconds they finish the fight easy.

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i just went as a blood dk 452 ilvl vs a dps dh 450 ilvl. he absorbed 1.2million of the dmg i did. some hits i did like my anima essence did 300kā€¦ fully absorbed as he dished out 50k dps into me and was taking zero damage. is this normal that a dps dh can outheal me absorb more than me and still do 50k dps the whole time? what a fkn broken class blizz its time you fix your game

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really you gonna complain about grammar? not everyone first language is english. you understood what he meant so why the need to act like a douche about it? yet you use twitch emotes that donā€™t even exist here. you are whats wrong with the internet

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Thatā€™s fine.

He said casters were bad. And then complained about mages. I reserve the right to be confused.

And?

If i am a bad person for having the privilege to disagree about a video game, or be confused about a poorly thought out post.

Then i think being being the number 1 wrong thing with the internet is FANTASTIC.

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paladins are good in pvp?
have you ever played a pally in pvp?
everyone cries if you play literally anything other then ret, and lawd save you if you dont have corruption gearā€¦
literally all i have going for me is my stun (which every time i cast judgement i take 8s off it, its a talent i use and my bubble (which is good for killing vehicles.)
you wanna complain about a pvp class complain about demon hunters. us prot pallys have to work at every kill extremely hard. also my death cheats? i get em for pve content, not my fault if resisting death is useful in pvp too

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you complain about grammar in a post you clearly understand completely, and you use twitch emotes in a blizzard forum. yes you are whats wrong with the internet.

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DKā€™s didnā€™t get enough love this expac. I think that may change in SLā€™s.

Til then, it is what it is.

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Except i donā€™t understand it completely.

If you want to complain about PVP, fine. But tell me what your true opinion is if you must.

Pepe existed before Twitchā€™s launch. And that is not even counting the time it took for him to become an emote.

Get more angry though, itā€™s funny :pepelaugh:

Good, i love being able to freely expressive my opinion and demand natural reasoning. And i love that it makes you angry.

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yeah. get out of your mom basement and go get a life. checking how much you post you clearly sit at the computer 24/7. you sound like an incel