I want to try playing Holy for PvP, I’ve been playing Disc only and the one thing I really like with Disc is how much damage I can do with it.
How is Holy when it comes to damage in PvP? Is there a build that focuses more on it? I see Divine Word Chastise, Empyreal Blaze, and Searing Light and it makes me wanna try it.
I was thinking of something like this:
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The potential holy damage is generally pointless because ALL the damage is in the same holy school of magic as your healing spells. Disc has plenty of shadow spells to cast, so when countered, they can go back to healing with their holy spells just fine.
Holy priest dps might work fine in BGs, but in arena where you’ll be micro crowd controlled half the time with a melee constantly thugging you… good luck.
In all honesty, I wish the devs would stop forcing all those DPS talents into holy and give the spec more mobility and other utility like cure poison. They obviously can’t balance the dps side of the spec so dump it and start anew.
I would try using IcyVeins to see if they have a better rotation/and build (talent and suggested resources) for gears too. Especially they have plenty of subcategorized info for Holy Priest.
That’s a good point. Although there is still Mindgames that is a casted shadow spell to bait some interrupts, could also play with precog. I doubt I’d do ranked arenas with it outside of maybe some solo shuffle.
I tried looking at IcyVeins but they only had pure healing build and didn’t take any of the damage talents. WoWhead took some of them but didn’t fully commit to it so I was curious if anyone had tried something more heavy on damage.
Best suggestion for last resort is open Trade Chat in the city and Ask for Suggested Talent/and Gear/ Rotations from a player. That last thing I would ever do.
I think the problem with procog is it can easily be nullified if a different player crowd controls you.
What do you mean? Precog makes you immune to CC/interrupts for 4s if someone whiff their interrupt.
Yea, but you can’t queue as a holy dps for arena. You need to queue as a healer. And maybe I’m wrong, but I think the only healer that can consistently dps in “arena” is a disc priest because their healing ability revolves around damage. The other healers don’t have that luxury in a fast pace setting. They need to focus on healing. That’s one of the reasons I hate arena and wish the devs would focus on a solo shuffle 6v6 battleground. It would have no dampening and offer up a better variety of playstyles.
Blizz hotfixed it so some abilities don’t trigger it. Forgot which ones off the top of my head.
And I saw this in the hotfix notes:
“The Precognition PvP talent will no longer occasionally grant its buff even if the player was interrupted.”
I’m not sure exactly what that means. Perhaps I interpreted wrong.
Well yeah, I’m not saying I wouldn’t be healing, I’m saying I’d like to have a bit of damage I can use for pressure. Like how Resto shaman can Stormkeeper to help secure a kill or how Disc can Mind Blast Expiation for a big hit.
That hotfix was because sometimes you would get the precognition buff despite the interrupt being done while you were casting, it was a bug in favor of precog.
I’m not aware of any of the interrupts not working on precog.
Silences, hard CCs and such won’t work, but interrupts themselves should all work as far as I know.
Curious how your holy priest dps experiment played out in actual gameplay.
I can see it being fun in BGs, but that’s about it. I don’t think it’s worth putting a ton of effort into gearing one until Blizzard makes it easier to cast holy damage spells more consistently.
Holy just isn’t worth playing compared to disc right now. It’s way harder to push rating with because the healing is lackluster.
Obviously if you’re dedicated go for it, solo brackets have separate ratings so you can mess around without risking your rating.
When I play holy this is my build.
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The build should change depending on what teams you’re playing against and playing as, so the spec isn’t set in stone but it’s a decent generic build.
I have gotten to 1950 this season so far in solo shuffle with this build but as disc I am up to 2150, disc feels far superior right now.
Not fully sure why, but I decided to give this holy dps thing a try mostly for pvp. These are the talents I picked. I avoided mind control because let’s be honest, how many times have you gotten a mind control off that actually made a huge difference in a fight?
And if I’m countered, I always have void tendrils, fear, mind games and catharsis to cast. I’m curious how much damage catharsis will do with a holy priest.
So far this toon is only level 45 and will have awhile to gear up. So don’t expect any dramatic results any time soon.
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Just hit level 70 with my holy dps priest.
Tomorrow I’ll do some epic BGs and gear him up with a basic honor set.
By Wednesday, I’ll start doing some solo shuffle. Can’t wait to get a ton of nasty messages telling me I suck.
Im running holy in Arena, as far as damage goes, you can spec into Insta holy fire, and then also Catharsis.
Will allow you a 150k dmg spike that will surprise the other healer.
you can pressure the heals with this dmg, or help finish off a dps that gets to about 30%.
As holy, you will be the tank. and will spend most of your time healing. But taking dmg is exactly how you can nuke with Catharsis.
to pressure a heals, i do holy fire, chastise, mind games, catharsis. Then Three holy fir insta casts.
This is about 300k dmg with their first heal actually hurting them.
to help your teamate drop someone, Holyfire, catharsis, shadowword death.
Catharsis hits for 60k non crit for me, @ 415 pvp GS.
I alwasy spool up a holy fire, chastise, then catharisis,
Its 150k dmg all at once, it has won me many matches.
in pvp burst dmg at the right moment makes a difference.
your not wrong, but holy dps in arena isnt sitting there and casting, you get a huge burst with insta casts once a min, To help finish someone off, or to keep the other heals busy while your dps is close to killing someone