Im in a strong PVP community and many of us would like to see a “guild wars” feature where large guilds and players in large community groups can que to an Epic battle ground and fight with a group of 40 players on each side (from the same guild or community). We would like to see this “guild wars” feature have a ranking system
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It’s already in the game, no it will never have a ranking system. Now go use it and stop exploiting. Also, you’re “community” isn’t strong, you exploit the lowest form of pvp in order to get wins.
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Guys every feature that already exists in this game explicity for the purpose of premades facing other premades is largely dead as a door nail ok.
War games? dead
rated bgs? dead
world pvp? dead
the low level twink bracket? giga dead
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You can already do this via war games (though without ranking).
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WARGAMES hasn’t been a mode for years now.
Is there like an actually half decent reason as to why?
Thats not “oh yeah they are really hard to set up bro” which is just a lie.
It’s literally everything you want premade v premade gaurenteed and both teams get to pick their rosters and map. whats not to like.
Especially at the end of the season where nobody actually needs conquest.
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They literally are right now.
The original poster specifically mentioned:
This is literally what war games allow. There’s nothing stopped a guild or community from doing this.
I’ve never done a war game though so someone can correct me if I am wrong please.
I’m talking about the old official format called Wargame in the q finder that was available. I sure don’t see it and haven’t for years. IT was perfect for what we are asking for now. Not sure why they bailed on it.
Hey, alliance. You can already do this. So go do it. Go wargame each other.
But that’s not what you really want to do is it, because you know what many of you will do is min-max it so hard, one team will be min maxed to the gills and the other won’t. And who wants to play war games like that? lol
Anyway, there is zero good reason why alliance can’t already do what you claim you want to do.
Because as premades fell into obscurity premade modes did as well.
As I said I have not done a war game so I don’t know exactly how you do it, but you can still do war games. You essentially challenge another raid leader to a war game and off you go. This is exactly what you are looking for and you can do it right now.
It’s disappointing to see how quickly some people here turn constructive discussion into negativity. The reality is simple: every idea that’s put forward has the potential to benefit the PvP community as a whole. Not every suggestion will be perfect, but dismissing them with fake faction hostility or condescension does nothing to move us forward. If we want a better PvP experience, we need to build on ideas, not tear them down.
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To be clear, at least in this discussion, only one person was really being a negative nancy.
Everyone else was just telling you that this option is already available.
We were just telling you that the dream mode you ask for is already present in game and is far easier to set up than Que syncing.
But premades take every opportunity that presents itself to boast about how hard they are “winning”. All the time. They sound like trump almost lmao “we’re winning so big…nobody has ever seen winning this big”
So if one of them stopped winning at like 95 5 ratios all hell would likely break loose.
Just a general statement on my part no offense to you.
It still exists you just have to use an addon for it. Yes, blizzard does not care about unrated pvp lol
It’s not quite accurate to say this is already in the game. What we have now only covers part of the idea:
- You can try to queue sync with multiple 4–5 player groups and hope the pops line up.
- Merc mode can help a little, but it’s still just a workaround.
- Because of matchmaking, you’ll almost always have pugs mixed in rather than full guild vs guild.
- There’s no official UI or queue type that guarantees two full guild/community rosters facing each other.
So while it can be approximated with coordination and luck, there isn’t a real “guild wars” feature yet — which is why I think the request is worth bringing up.
Love that you all are offering this great conversation about the feature request.
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Bottom line for me is that as a community of pvpers we should get on board any and all pvp ideas brought forth here in the forums. All blizzard sees now is infighting and bs from us towards ourselves. Rated or Unrated…doesn’t matter. We should try to start getting them to pay us mind is all. Have a good one guys.
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War games is exactly that actually. You form your 40 another group forms their 40 and you press war game on your map of choice. No pugs.
Not a lie when I tell you it’s everything you say you want with the exception of rewards cause thankfully blizzard isn’t that ignorant and knows that this playerbase would abuse that so fast it wouldn’t be funny.
It just hands you the power over the matchmaking system that you try to seize control of in the mode not designed for you (randoms).
I get why people are pointing to War Games, but they’re not really the same thing as what I’m asking for:
- War Games were pulled out of the PvP UI in patch 8.0.1 — now you can only start them with the
/wargameor/wgcommand. There’s no built-in interface for guilds/communities to queue up. - They’re unrated scrims — no honor, no achievements, no win/loss tracking, and no progression. Just practice or fun runs.
- You can fight same-faction and even do uneven team sizes, but that’s not a structured “guild vs guild” mode.
- What I’m hoping for is a feature that actually lets guilds queue into each other in Epics, earn honor kills, and maybe even have a ranking system.
War Games are more of a workaround than a real system — the foundation is there, but it’s missing rewards, progression, and any proper UX.