No, it wasn’t. BFA was considerably worse in just about every regard.
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bfa had far better transmog
I would quit instantaneously if this was the case
just bring back templates ig idk tbh ggs man enjoy the xpac u2 ty /shrug
Nah.
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Lmao not even close. Season 2/3 of SL were some of the best pvp seasons ever.
You guys actually blow my mind with the things you manage to complain about. Unless y’all are god level trolls, I can’t honestly believe how you guys have an issue with the gearing system at this point in time, with how far it’s come and how great it feels.
The only thing they could implement at this point that they already haven’t is some kind of scaling increase in conquest acquisition depending on how far behind you are.
Something like:
if you’re, say (purely hypothetical) 10000 conquest behind cap, you’ll acquire it at 300% rate. If you’re 5000 behind cap, you’ll acquire it at a 150% rate. If you’re 2000 behind cap, you’ll acquire it at 75% rate, etc. Idk what this number would look like, but this kinda of tiered, diminshing system would be a great QOL for gearing alts late in seasons.
Otherwise, you really have nothing to complain about at this point. Even the busiest adults can grind out the 550 conquest cap in under 2 hours, once per week. Y’all have to stop.
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Blizz had p. much this exact system but better 10 years ago
Our tier was our sets and we could CHOOSE OUR STATS
Vendor was 100% of gearing.
P. sure the last 10 years of blizz’ most convoluted borrowedpower/PvP gearing designs have jaded everyone to want for WoW to go to many other MMO titles.
And the thousands of fanboy fail to answer objectively: “Why should gear matter in PvP?”
Objectively, Rated serves no purpose for progression and all it does is force casuals to play with the most sweaty game modes just so they’re not absolutely DEMOLISHED in casual modes. Since rated gear is now 25% better rather than 5% better like it was in WoD.
“U can cap Conquest thru casual modes”
Like what, 70 conquest for bg, 5 for skirm, 100 for epic. Epics flooded w/ premades, regular bgs i can spend 2 hours on and get no conquest cause its 15v15 and my impact is minimal unlike blitz.
People hate Arenas cause the balance has been Dog*$(^) the past 10 years and constantly invalidating what people wanna play, and you have to have a healer buddy and so much addon setup to push.
I think they straight up believe they’re not playing an MMO-RPG… so far gearing is too fast IMO
Nah - SL was dog tier. The Entire Barrowed Power system was dog tier. Lmao.
Anything to add or just streamer buzzwords we don’t comprehend
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Nah covenant abilities were gnarly.
Especially necro banner spear door of shadows nightfae blink list goes on.
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No. I enjoy earning my Conquest gear over the course of a season.
Alright - the gloves are comin’ off here. I am all for fair-play (I’m a staunch defender of it, actually), but what you’re on about ain’t it.
The current system is fair. The same gear, with the same iLvl and stats, is available to everyone. Play the game long enough (even terribly), and you’ll have BiS PVP gear. The only factor is time. That’s fair. What you’re asking for stems from laziness.
While I get that not everyone has a lot of time to play, it takes very little time to actually gear up anymore. It’s almost too fast. By mid-season, most player’s mains will be fully geared (and on an entirely equal footing) - even the causal players like me, who only get in a game or two sometimes.
There’s really only so much Blizz can do to cater to people who have “No time” without adversely affecting the game. The expectation that the whole Conquest gear progression should be scraped because you purportedly have “No time” is an incredibly selfish demand.
As per the claim that it’ll increase participation: It won’t. I mean, I know that I wouldn’t enjoy it. I like working on my character throughout the season. I like the feeling that comes with buying a fresh upgrade. It feels good. If you take that away, then you’ve taken away a lot.
I think Blizz has done a good job of balancing fairness and progression.
If you spent more time playing and less time crying on the forums, you might be geared.
At any rate, you are only behind temporarily. Eventually, you’ll catch up. Expecting to be caught up immediately is where your problem lies. “I want it now!”
I also find it funny that you’re bringing this up now, at the start of an expac (the easiest time to gear). Is there some reason why you can’t be geared right now? I’ve been playing, like, a week - very casually, mind you. Mining nodes, crafting gems, puttering around in Dorn, getting lost, doing RP, etc. I hit 80 a couple days ago, and I’m almost fully geared. What exactly is your excuse?
While this is true, you will still lose a lot of players who don’t care about those things - typically because they’ll never get them, anyways. People like me. The effect of this is a super-deflated ladder, where the top end is, like, 1800.
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Keep feigning stupidity thinking you’re cooking. Let me make it easier for you.
Class abilities that are not permanent, not part of the long-term design of the class, that will be removed by the next expansion, is TERRIBLE game design. Was complained about and removed by the following expac.
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Aka feed and get farmed by people w/ 25% better gear than you, and if enough are on a team the other team is GY farmed within 2 minutes.
What a terrible form of online hazing.
You can expect more from your paid product.
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They will pretend like they dont know what you are talking about. Its feigned ignorance to preserve there feel good gear based hazing system they are afraid to live with out. Also lol at the use of laziness in reference to a video game. Its not a job or a life accomplishment. Its a video game. Bunch of fake try hards in a 20 year old MMO. Its actually wild.
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Them asking “what borrowed power” was during the REKNOWN system is certainly, pretty tryhard as far as gaslighting goes.
It’s like everyone saying Legion’s gear system was fine
And ignored the hundreds of trillion of artifact power you could be behind and someone have +25% primary stat buff pretty much up all the time over you.
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And a lot of them were put into the talent trees because they fit with the design of the class as most of the warrior ones did although I feel like anybody who played the class at the time would know this
Conq banner and spear were just such good additions to the class at the time
Also we’ve always had “borrowed power” in some form of another, be it trinkets, tier, class design changing, etc
SL was peak for Warr
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Yeah its ridiculous
Battlemaster trinkets and break CC trinkets have been in game since I started in TBC 
You should know better than to even try to hairsplit this, dawg.
Or, fox.
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