There’s been many posts on this, but I feel like the early stages of a patch in the making would be a good time to bring this back into the light. First… I doubt blizzard make the changes to go forward with 1 honor and 1 conquest set in 9.1.5 as there’s not a new season. I would like to see all honor ilvl gear scaled up to challenger and ALL conquest gear scaled up to duelist as a quick bandaid fix that will allow us to play alts and not be so far behind (this is a short term fix that would really help participation). As a long term solution, I think I speak for literally everyone who PvPs from combatant level gamers to glad and r1/tourney players when I say that we NEED only 2 sets of gear when it comes to PvP, one honor set and 1 conquest set. Both of these sets will be lower ilvl than high end raid and M+ gear. Both sets will be a base ilvl with NO upgrades or rating/renown gating, but will scale up when PvPing to ensure that PvP is the best way to gear for pvp AND it will greatly increase participation due to having an even playing field for mains/alts. Please blizzard, listen to your entire PvP community.
please god.
Why not just one set of gear? I’d be happy with that.
There’s always been an honor set earnable from BGs. Which was supposed to close the gap a bit while you’re gearing with conq in arenas/RBGS. The honor set is definitely important.
I don’t see a need to have a gear gap in PvP. Just throw it out and have honor gear = conquest gear. Achievements/titles are far more rewarding to me.
It can just be honor gear being 246ilvl in pvp and conquest being 259
You’ll still have an edge with conquest gear, but the power difference wont be massive like it is right now, 230 vs 259
Correct. That’s exactly what I’m saying. Rating gating/upgrades are so out of place in PVP.
With the changes they’re talking about making in 9.1.5, it looks like they’re kind of listening to the player base… which gives me a little hope on this topic.
Removing the rating gating and making it so honor gear was viable would fix much with actual gameplay. The game is balanced around 2.1 gear and then they make it so 75% of players can’t get it, especially on their alts.
Please 1 honor and 1 conquest set.
EXACTLY, thank god someone on here knows what im talkin bout.
The game is balanced around 2.1k , its so unfair that only few people are playing it
dont give me hope
Or…
Just have PvP stat templates, let me decide how to allocate my secondary stats.
And let me gear PvE as I see fit if thats something I wish to do.
Its really not complicated.
If only that’s real lmao
If the below is accurate then it’s 1 honor set 1 conquest set, but I am skeptical.
Covenant changes
- Renown is no longer connected to a specific covenant and is also account bound.
- Covenant swapping can now be done once per day
- Soul Conduits are now automatically unlocked with the strength of the Conduit being tied to Renown level.
- Conduit energy has been removed.
- Covenant Armour will now automatically be 210 and will no longer be upgradable
Misc PVP Changes
- Honor Cap has been removed
- Honor Can now be used to repair Armour (1g = 1 honour)
- All Honour, and Conquest Items will have 3 choices per item now.
Haste Versatility
Crit Versatility
Mastery Versatility - Conquest weekly cap is now 800 per week.
- Conquest can now be traded for Honour (100 Conquest = 2500 Honour)
- Conquest generation is increased by 100% until you reach the current week of Conquest. If a new player starts, or you create an alt on week 12, 800 x 11 weeks will generate 100% more
Honor changes
Honor Gear 220 PVE Item level: 262 PVP item level
Honor Gear Cost
Neck / back / wrist / ring: 1575
Shoulders / Hands / Feet / waist: 2100
Head / Chest / Legs / One hand weapon: 2625
Trinket: 1575
2 Hand Weapon: 5250
Conquest Armour changes
Conquest Gear 242 PVE Item level: 275 PVP item level
Conquest Armour cost
Neck / back / wrist / ring: 525
Shoulders / Hands / Feet / waist: 700
Head / Chest / Legs / One hand weapon: 875
Trinket: 525
2 Hand Weapon: 1750
I haven’t been keeping up. So I take it, no equal ilvl conquest gear? Re-subbing is still a no for me.
I’m honestly not going to look forward to playing World of Warcraft if only the last patch of every expansion is playable as a 24/7 random battleground spammer (<–Me).
Equal ilvl conquest gear or I’m out (both feet are out the door already, i’m leaning backwards to poke my head in; once I shut the door it’ll be for good). I’ve hardly been keeping up with WoW news anymore. I only wanted to hop on the forums after a few weeks to see if equal ilvl was coming back.
I know, I just hope…
Yea, that’s why I posted it here, cause that’s what we want.
Even if that post isn’t real, I’m sort of optimistic about it in 9.2, seeing as they’re making decent quality of life changes in 9.1.5. I’m TRYING to remain hopeful
Yea, I feel like it’s a bad relationship… I love the game so much and always hope things will be different… I don’t know why they insist on making me miserable when it has ALL of the potential.
If tons of people hop on the PTR and are vocal about it, they may listen and change it. The new leadership knows that can’t screw up this next patch