Please don’t remove the ‘Dead of Winter’ PvP talent…it would completely ruin the spec.
It’s a fun Frost DK niche ability and the only way the spec lands kills. Frost DK’s are by no means overpowered in PvP and in fact have been one of the worst specs for years.
They are finally pretty good this patch but seems it won’t last long if this change goes through.
I’ve seen plenty of negative comments about this change, the new PvP talent is useless given it ‘heavily reduces movement’ AND increases Pillar of Frost CD by 15 seconds going back to the degenerate 1 minute CD window and do nothing inbetween playstyle.
Given Silence also overrides Asphyxiate, it means the only stun Frost DK’s would have is Absolute Zero every 1.5 minutes…sorry but this is not good game design.
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Can’t go adding a DK pvp talent without at least a couple of negative drawbacks. Can you imagine how insanely OP it would be if it didn’t slow you down, add to the cool-down, hit your dog, insult your intelligence and steal your lunch money? No? Me neither.
The crux here is they have removed one of our most important auto pick pvp talents its value and utility can not be overstated. In its place is now some easily avoidable AoE damage. This at the moment does not seem fair in the slightest especially with the defensive nerfs (lol) The only thing we can hope for is this damage is actually insane (doubt) and it creates area denial in the likes of BG blitz.
Can frost just have a redesign in general so it doesn’t need Pillar windows for decent damage? Imagine if your skills could do decent damage without cds…
DK in general (all 3 specs need a redesign imo when compared to other classes).
I think removing the stun is just bad. It is the one thing Frost had going for it to set up kill windows with the cc chains.
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Realized I wasn’t on my dk when replying.
To add to what I already mentioned, the silence should really just be a choice node with our stun in the general tree. Having a silence would be very useful in mythic plus compared to another stun that most classes already have. It would actually allow dks to use different pvp talents for matchups compared to what it is nice for most of the time.
If you are bent on frost removing the stun, then imo, you need to update another pvp talent to give frost a ms effect.