PVP from a twink players perspective, & my solution to fixing it

Mauden-korgath · January 19, 2019, 1:42am

That’s really ironic, and I wish you could see it.

Killidan-kalecgos · January 19, 2019, 1:44am

Thanks a lot, Freddy. Now they know.

Fatfreddy-emerald-dream · January 19, 2019, 1:45am

Who is they?

Killidan-kalecgos · January 19, 2019, 1:49am

leans in close
whispers in your ear

You know… them.

Lyfordeth-magtheridon · January 19, 2019, 1:51am

We are the nights of Ni!! What is the password!

Killidan-kalecgos · January 19, 2019, 1:55am

I don’t know it!

Kangmurloc-dark-iron · January 19, 2019, 1:56am

Indeed, nice to see one of the originals educated opinion on this issue.
We were there to really understand the results of separation.

Kítana-illidan · January 19, 2019, 1:59am

Could say the same for people who fotm reroll twink to just get hks off new levers all day. Esp since you guys are so anti being seprate and having no levelers to farm .

Gerad-malfurion · January 19, 2019, 2:07am

Preface: As an aspiring twink, I don’t mind the current state of PvP. I like my gear making a huge difference on my success. If I put more time into developing a character, I should be significantly rewarded for it. But…

I seriously wonder how non-twinks find PvP remotely fun. When I first started in PvP, I wasn’t remotely twinked, and I got 1-2 shot a lot. I probably spent 90% of my PvP gameplay either in the graveyard or getting back to the group after being rezzed. While I have a fairly competitve nature, and I find winning much more fun than losing, I could at least remotely understand people enjoying losing at a game, if they were actually playing it. You fight, you try your best, but were just beaten anyway. However, with the current state of PvP, they’re literally not playing the game most of the time. Yet, they keep on queueing over and over again. How is that remotely fun for people? I don’t get it.

Mauden-korgath · January 19, 2019, 2:08am

It isn’t. That’s why these threads keep popping up.

Tosko-scarlet-crusade · January 19, 2019, 2:08am

Fotm rerollers would still plague the brackets with or without an xpoff que, I cant tell you how frustrating it was playing my 60 rogue in legion. Our template was so lackluster and I would have to work so hard to win fights when random surv hunter could just axe toss some dude to the shadowrealm with minimal effort.

I still believe that time/effort should be rewarding at all levels not just max.

Kangmurloc-dark-iron · January 19, 2019, 2:11am

19s is one of the most unbalanced brackets in BFA for sure.
Unless players are premade vs premade or wargames, matches are a joke.
Hence the exodus to better more balanced brackets.

Orryn-malfurion · January 19, 2019, 2:11am

Then, why do they keep queueing up for it? Are they masochists? Seriously.

Mauden-korgath · January 19, 2019, 2:11am

Guarantee some are, but I imagine most are just hoping they win the coin toss and get more twinks.

Killidan-kalecgos · January 19, 2019, 2:14am

This tbh.

Some of us, like myself, are just too damn stubborn to quit even when it’s obvious that we’re outclassed. It’s not masochism, it’s a matter of pride.

Orryn-malfurion · January 19, 2019, 2:16am

As much as I take pride in myself, my value of time is greater than that. No offense. If I’m a twink in a group of levelers, there’s no way I’m wasting 15 minutes of my life constantly fighting 5 on 1.

Diago-burning-blade · January 19, 2019, 2:25am

Yeah I def rolled a twink to farm pointless HKs

PVP happened.

Orryn-malfurion · January 19, 2019, 2:31am

Personally, I don’t twink to honor kill farm. I do it out of necessity. If I don’t, I will get steamrolled over and over again, spending most of my time not actually playing the game.

Idun-wyrmrest-accord · January 19, 2019, 4:49am

Yes.

The lack of population is twinks’ problem, not Blizzard nor anyone else’s.

Krannon-aerie-peak · January 19, 2019, 5:20am

Pinkz:

i do not believe the OP of this thread as having played twinks during the previous XP on and XP off separation period. along with the period where brackets split from x0-x9 to x0-x4 / x0-x9.

the only XP OFF only brackets active when it was all said and done

19’s easy to roll, reroll, hugely popular
20-24’s, fed by F2P capped 20’s considered XP OFF, and later Legend 20’s from once active accounts, gone inactive
70-74 because WOW was BC capped last half of WOTLK, all of CATA, and Half of MOP.
29’s, 39’s, and 49’s had failed revival attempts, 59’s died day one of the split, what OP is calling separation.

half into MOP, blizz added WOTLK to the basic game, and 2-3
months later added CATA to the basic game.

70-74 did suffer slightly then on que times, but still did good
80-84 briefly became active until CATA was added, quickly dying
85-89 became active because it was fed by CATA capped players

skipping WOD, Legion, but now in BFA imo if the brackets are split you would have a repeat with only a slight variance in active brackets

19’s easy to roll, reroll, hugely popular
20-29’s, fed by F2P capped 20’s considered XP OFF, and later Legend 20’s from once active accounts, gone inactive
110’s because blizz made it a single bracket, it would be fed by Legion capped players, and like 20-29 totally imbalanced

splitting the brackets, was devastating when WOW had a 10 mil player base, again… i do not believe the OP of this thread actually experienced the original split, or was twinking in the original split with comments he/she is claiming. or considering that EU and NA may be each below 1 mil actual players

This is a good recap of the lower and upper brackets, but let’s clarify some midbracket history here. 29s, 39s, 49s, and 59s all got games for a few months in Wrath after the 3.2 patch landed. 59s stayed dead after wrath, but the other midbrackets revived and died in each expansion (multiple times for certain brackets) for the duration of the segregated queues.