PVP from a twink players perspective, & my solution to fixing it

No. It goes nowhere.

We could all end it by just saying “aye” or “nay” to separation of xp-on and xp-off.

Ok, sure…

It’s like you didn’t even look at the screenshots. Again. You think all those people that got devoured alive were lacking heirlooms?

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I wear heirlooms and get devoured alive… that’s more my lack of being good and the class I play.

Whatever you want to believe. If it helps you more to think she’s a male child rather than an adult female, whatever you want to do.

I would love it. I agree with the OP on my of his points. I do not hate twinks but I think by them farming levelers is bad for the community and the health of the game. It creates a toxic environment that makes people who are new or inexperienced in entry level battlegrounds want to quit pvp and or the game.

… Okay? That wasn’t really the thing. You said:

And the pics posted show said twinks roflstomping people that are almost assuredly compromised mostly in heirloom users.

Which means…?

This is my point. Put these players in their own bracket, because even heirloom players will farm them.

pure conjecture. Even if so it would not be as bad or as often as twinks doing it.

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They could be as bad as I am.

If people are getting GY farmed, they don’t care who it’s by. If you’re getting GY farmed by a premade of non twinks does that really make it better?

well maybe that would be a next step, IF it was a problem, right now twinks farming levelers that is the problem. A while back they nerfed the heirlooms because they where OP, they an do it again if needed.

Yeah, that’s gotta be it. I mean, nothing else comes to mind. Anytime someone posts a SS like this with twinks absolutely massacring the other side - as is usually the case - chances are it’s coincidence and everyone on the farmed team is bad. To think it’s having the advantage of an unlimited time to farm BiS gear at that point is improbable.

Losses that bad happen at max level as well.

Relevancy?

Max level is not the same as leveling. Apples and oranges.

So your solution is to nerf heirlooms and remove twinks. Sounds a whole lot of what makes this game bad.

Meaning it’s not just twinks that cause it. Could be one side of newer players vs the other side of wow vets.

no, I said, because you implied that if they did away with twinks, then people with heirlooms would be the twinks. Then I said if it was a problem they could nerf them like they did in the past. Stick with me here, I know its hard.

I very much enjoyed competitive random queues when BGs were separated as well. The only issue is that I’m level 19 and got the pleasure to enjoy that. Very few brackets Above 29 would survive this (just like last time), and those characters/brackets would be back on the shelf.

I think new players and levelers currently (and for the past few expansions) have had more of a problem with low level class balance than the twink to non-twink differential.

I wonder how much of the problem would be solved with actual class balancing aimed at lower levels and introducing some sort of stat scaling feature. Something along the lines of everybody scales up to the ilvl of the highest ilvl person the instance? The issue here is that gear would feel unimportant, which was an issue with Legion, and an odd thing to have in an MMO.

Or perhaps decreasing damage dealt to a target according to their ilvl? If I had an ilvl of 30, and somebody has an ilvl of 15, maybe I should do 15% less damage against them? Or an additional 15% damage if it were the other way around? Something enough to close the gap, but to keep gearing choices still relevant.

I’m not sure what sort of balancing features are even feasibly from a technical standpoint. Just brainstorming.

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Could also be all their net went out at once, or all their cats were walking on their keyboards.

Plausibility is a factor. It was gear.

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