PVP Community left behind in SOD, Response to 2/27 developer update

There seems to be so much focus on rewards for raiding and PVE content, and as someone who really enjoys PVP over PVE it feels like we have been left out.

I think you need to show some love for the PVP community and introduce PVP reward sets for ranks, maybe a new battleground or just a revamped battleground that’s new and refreshing. There has been alot of people upset about 1 shot /burst meta and how everyone is dead in fights that last 3-4 seconds.

Maybe introduce PVP tier set gear that have cool abilities that are class specific in PVP and have higher stamina then the Raiding gear but not to far apart where you need to farm 2 different sets of gear. This will solve the problem without nerfing classes. If you want to focus and have fun in PVP while you can still use PVE gear you can work towards getting higher stamina gear to not feel like you are getting killed in 2 globals. The AB rewards stink, and we grinded revered in WSG for what just some bracers?

On top of this the pvp event in phase 1 in ashenvale was not pvp, it was supposed to be a pvp event when all it was is killing PVE bosses lol. Stranglethorn is a start but theres no competitive feel and a mess no strategy involved its just everyone fighting to get killing blows on people who are already 5% hp.

I know adding arenas is probably a stretch but even if just adding rated battlegrounds. It feels crummy cause i know there is a huge PVP player base that feels left out with so much PVE/raid content. What if someone doesnt want to acquire their best in slot gear by raiding but instead want to work their way up and earn it through PVP. GIVE THE PEOPLE DIFFERENT AVENUES TO EARN GEAR BESIDES JUST RAIDING PLEASE! There is a way to do this without making people grind 2 sets of gear. It can be done in a way to make PVE gear still viable in pvp and the other way around. My point is that there needs to be a way for people to acquire their gear besides JUST PVE.

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this is actually really solid feedback bumping this

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Well pve is the main thing in this game id say…pvp is just a bonus

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A pvp set or multiple pvp sets for each phase would be wonderful

Pvp sets with their own set bonuses…would have been sick in P2

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PvPers in general are just not having fun with the phase 2 PvP. Runes are far overtuned both in damage and damage to cost ratio. Healers feel useless because classes do unhealable damage, especially in group PvP. This is further enforced by the fact that the dev team felt it necessary to increase everyone’s health in PvP events and areas.

20% damage reduction in P1 made healing too strong, and increasing everyone’s health pool to compensate overtuned damage makes healing too weak. Why can’t the dev team implement runes to be adjacent to vanilla abilities in terms of numbers?

Agree that there should be more rank and PvP rep rewards added, but in reality P2 PvP makes vanilla PvP look balanced. At least in vanilla each class had something that they were specifically the best at, even druids. Now it’s just a numberfest that encourages not thinking and instead just running at your opponent and pressing dps rotation buttons.

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As someone who PvP’s every day and raids every reset, I too would like some more PvP rewards. PvP sets sound awesome, so long as they don’t outclass other items by such a wide margin that people are forced to PvP to stay alive. We have that right now more or less with raid gear, and I know many PvPers are not happy about it. Admittedly finding a balance there would be really difficult, but yeah. My 2c.

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and thats your opinion. There Is a large amount of people who even enjoy both! or even only like the pvp and not PVE. But why not give people multiple avenues to acquire top of the line gear and not just limit us raiding content. I think thats a disingenuous comment. You may not like pvp so they should just leave the rewards/content mediocre? The point of the post is that if you want to acquire your rewards and gear through PVE you can, no one is forcing you to pvp. But what about the large community who enjoy pvp and competitiveness, why cant we get our end game gear through pvp and not be forced to raid?

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yea i agree, they tried highlight that point in the original post, have the pvp gear slightly more tailored with more pvp benefits like higher stamina, but not stray to far to where you need to grind 2 sets to do one or the other. More so as 2 different avenues to acquire your end game gear. PVE may have slightly higher stats with reduced stam and PVP gear will have slightly less stats but more Stamina for survivability but still slightly similar. It also solves the survivability problem that alot of people arent happy with and then classes need to be nerfed.

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Exactly. Give the pvp sets an emphasis on armor and stamina. And maybe the full set bonus gives you a defensive wall to press (30% DMG reduction for 5 seconds or something)

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“Defensive wall” is a stretch, that would be straying too far and make pvp and pve sets far too different making people need to grind 2 different sets. Even if its as simple as pvp gear having SLIGHTLY higher armor and more stam, and small set bonuses like reduce chance to be crit against by 1-2% just enough to make BOTH pve and pvp sets viable in either raiding or pvp environments and not have people grinding 2 different sets

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If they’re gonna keep making SoD into a bastardized version of retail they might as well seperate raid and PvP gear so PvPers can stop raiding

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Done spamming topics with this same post on every alt you have? The recent blue post has several identical posts to yours OP. Your first comment is from someone doing the same thing, big surprise they agree with you, since they probably are you.

AI generated spam post.

Nah we don’t want rated BGs. Classic was all about open world pvp. If you want to pvp, just get out there and start ganking.

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You mean reposting, on my ONE alt? Im trying to provide solid feedback. But it gets drowned out by tons people of complaining and crying about GDKP’s and nerfing this and that with no real constructive feedback. Its sad that the actual constructive feedback gets drowned out by non constructive spam about the same 2 topics. Ive literally reposted on my 1 alt. Why are you so mad.

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They just need to add level 50 versions of the blue PvP sets with Rank 8. They’re already itemized well.

We’ll also have the R14 gear at 60 which is generally quite beefy with armor/stamina.

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There are 4 to five posts of the same post in the blue post thread. That is spam. I get feeling drowned out but spamming is not the way.

For the record I am not mad, we’re both adults here the internet doesn’t dictate our feelings. I find it desperate to ask for things when PVP already has more rewards and options than it did at this point in era or OG vanilla. This point of the game always had limited PVP gear and that gear was only “PVP” due to how you got it, PVE gear was always the PVP while leveling.

i agree, pvp alternative gearing is needed now that raids numbers are scaling up again

are you sure?

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Doesnt even need to be rated BG’s i would be happy with just a revamped battleground, a new battleground or if not that just more focus on pvp rewards and variety like they have done with the raid loot and craftable items. They have completely revamped dungeons into raids, why cant they revamp a battleground that gives similar loot to raiding gear. All we get is same old battlegrounds, to get a pair of bracers worth using and a ring. We should have different avenues to reaching endgame besides logging in once every 3 days to raid and thats it

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Why though?

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