Ion in an interview said that they want to grow the pvp scene. How do you all think they can achieve that? What type of changes would we need to see?
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They should take after ff14 and remove gear and simplify the rotations.
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You can get full bis in a day and every spec has been lobotomized this expac
Now what
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Inb4 all the strawman āPvP is a minigameā comments.
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Water, sunlight, and plenty of fertilizer.
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Add a grindable renown/battle pass.
Throw recolor mounts and mogs
Add flags and toys
2 to 3 months cycle
Add titles past the full renown track like they do in overwatch
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Having gear at all is the issue. Should just be able to q immediately and be even with other players. Like at level 10 if youd like. That got me to a play a TON of ff14 pvp.
Yeah ur right about the specs lol. But ff14 pvp rotas are even easier.
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Stop the queue syncing premades in unrated battlegrounds for a start.
Increase conquest gains from all modes.
Add a seasonal PvP renown track.
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People say this then get full gear, continue to struggle/lose and blame something else. It never ends.
Itād be cool for a sort of honor system rework. Thereās elite sets and the usual ranked rewards but nothing for unranked.
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do you mean like how guild wars 2 does PVP? everyone is max level and gear is standardized and it becomes more of a topic of player skill rather than gear? or did I misunderstand you?
This was already attempted in Legion, and it flopped.
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Thats just competitive gaming lol. Never played a game where people didnt act like that.
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I googled and read a bit and it seems like gear still existed and it was a bunch of old guard pvp players upset that it was more simple.
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Fix que syncing abuse for non-rated.
Bump up item levels to see more world pvp engagement because it isnāt fun to be in full conquest and have mobs take ages to die, or risk switching to PvE gear and get jumped then die. Lol.
Crafted to Adventure
Honor gear to Veteran
Warmode Gear to Champion
Conquest Gear to Hero
I mean, come on. My epic crafted rings are ilvl 240 or something, then scale to 298 as soon as I sneeze towards a player. Wild swings.
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Legion had the exact system you are advocating for, where you could go into an instanced PvP match and not have to worry much about gear.
It was universally hated by the PvP community because they prefer having gear progression in an MMORPG.
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Well it works very well in ff14 which is an mmo. And legion was 10 years ago. Pvp seems to be in a far more dire state.
Suppose we could just keep everything the same to appease you guys : p
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By reducing the conquest requirement to buy gear.
By increasing conquest gains from BGS.
Them adjusting and motivating new players to join PVP is not going to solve if a casual players gets very few conquest points in bgs.
Why would a casual player sit 16 min in solo blits que
when bgs que is 6 min and 2 min on horde?
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MMO PvP has always been a very niche activity.
And even so, there is not a single other MMORPG out there with a larger PvP community than this one.
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Mhm and thatās why Ion is talking about how small the pvp community in wow is and how poorly its doing
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Youāre missing the point. Yes, PvPāers make up a small portion of this gameās playerbase.
But there is not a single other MMORPG out there where PvPāers make up a larger portion of itās players.
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