Looks like they want to make the Arena scene just as bad as it is right now on retail.
My suspicion is they are afraid more people will actually do arena in TBC…
So they implement sh**ty change that made Arena a despicable experience over the years.
I will add the reply in the first post here because it explain better why it is a problem :
One of the major problem right now on retail is gating all of the PVP gear with rating.
Even worse. In TBC classic, the pvp gear has resilience that cannot be obtained anywhere else outside of PVP (Arena).
So what will happen when you have exclusive gear sought after with gated brackets like that?
You guessed it. BOOSTING
Of course, boosting has always been around, but if you gate all of the gear you will end up just like in retail with tons and tons of player smurfing between 1500 and 1800.
All the bad players who baught the boost will eventually also drop in rating and will be way below the retaing associated with their gear.
The result? You will have legitimate players who are trying to grind the ladder but will end up against booster (pro players) or baddies with a sgnificant gear advantage.
The last piece that would trigger all of this is if they implement WoW token. So players will just have to pay to win their rating.
TLDR; rating all of the gear will result in a huge gear gap in lower bracket and a huge rise in BOOSTING. If they introduce WoW token, it’s over for Arena.
What’s worse about it? The only things that weren’t great in retail (IMO) were when they removed arena teams and when they removed 5s. Neither of which are happening with TBC.
One of the major problem right now on retail is gating all of the PVP gear with rating.
Even worse. In TBC classic, the pvp gear has resilience that cannot be obtained anywhere else outside of PVP (Arena).
So what will happen when you have exclusive gear sought after with gated brackets like that?
You guessed it. BOOSTING
Of course, boosting has always been around, but if you gate all of the gear you will end up just like in retail with tons and tons of player smurfing between 1500 and 1800.
All the bad players who baught the boost will eventually also drop in rating and will be way below the retaing associated with their gear.
The result? You will have legitimate players who are trying to grind the ladder but will end up against booster (pro players) or baddies with a sgnificant gear advantage.
The last piece that would trigger all of this is if they implement WoW token. So players will just have to pay to win their rating.
TLDR; rating all of the gear will result in a huge gear gap in lower bracket and a huge rise in BOOSTING. If they introduce WoW token, it’s over for Arena.
They did that in TBC. And the gear is not significant enough to change your rating by more than maybe 100 points. Good players will be on top and bad players on the bottom with the exception of boosting in 5s.
S1 had no rating requirement.
S2 and S3 was 1850 for weapons and 2000 for shoulder
S4 had bracket rating.
Moreover, the difference in Ilvl between each season is lower.
Between S1 and S2 there was 13 ilvl difference.
Between S2 and S3 there was 10 ilvl difference.
Between S3 and S4 there was 8 ilvl difference.
Season 1 will be rough. Because there will be no rating requirement for the previous season, I think S2 and S3 will be less brutal for the reason above.
For who? Everyone starts out the same in Outlands. I really don’t see how it’s going to be “rough” for anyone except people who come into the arena season late. But they’d be behind with their gear anyways regardless of rating.
And again, 2 or 3 pieces of gear that is marginally worse absolutely will not make a significant impact on your rating.
The only way to solve this would be to eliminate in-season rewards for pvp, and for the end of season rewards to not be meaningful in the next season due to better itemization outside of pvp.
But that would never stand for the typical wow player. Why? I don’t know.
Blizzard is out of its mind. OG, TBC, and WotLK were great games. Most of us want to play those as they were 15 years ago. WHY CAN’T BLIZZARD LEAVE THE GREAT ORIGINAL GAME ALONE???
And just like that, blizzard proves they are greedy, sneaky liars, and never to to be trusted again. I didnt have to earn any rating to get my weapon in 2007, I’m not doing it now. I play an enhancement shaman. No one is gonna wanna do arenas with me now because it’s non meta. Do you suits even think about the consequences of your boneheaded actions? Now people will be selling 2k boosts and toxic children are gonna be blaming me for their losses when they make mistakes just because I’m not playing the right class (according to them.) So I guess I’m stuck with turbo cleave or gtfo? Im gonna gtfo then. Id rather quit the game than play resto shaman.
Way to go Blizzard, this is why we can’t have nice things. I just wanted to have some fun doing casual 2’s and 3’s and then taking the gear into world pvp/bgs. I refused to buy shadowlands and played zero hours of BFA because the pvp gearing system was trash, this is just more of the same. YOU ONLY NEEDED 1800 RATING TO GET A WEAPON in WRATH and S3, AT LEAST LOWER THE RATINGS REQUIREMENT DUMMIES. 1800 is doable if you push hard, 2050 is impossible for certain class/specs unless you get carried.
Stop giving people who are already incredibly good an extra advantage, if they’re already that good then the playing field needs to be leveled. Skill should matter more than gear, so give everyone the gear. Use the MOP/WOD model for gearing you idiots, not the wrath/shadowlands model.
The blue set sucks and takes far too long get. By the time you get the blue stuff you’ll be losing arena matches left and right to people in superior pve gear.
I’m not a huge fan of the changes, but this is just kind of a player thing at this point. We boosted people back in TBC too, the thing is no one gets shamed for these types of behavior, because everything is efficiency over fun.
If you “bought” a boost and got 2200 shoulders people mocked you. Now it’s seen as a smart way of getting gear you want in a video game because thats the goal. Not the fun you had getting yourself to that goal. (as in why spend many weeks of time getting good when I can just get it this week with a boost?)
The goal is the item for people, and classic has shown how shameless people are nowadays lol.