Why is the gear so different? I remember when they first introduced vers gear. I could sort of understand it. But now PvP and PvE in WoW are literally different games. Everyone is just running a template. It’s so basic… I remember the good ole days on my Fury Warrior with Arcanite Reaper farming PvP gear in AB it was fun tearing up n00bs. Back then the gear was good at least. Gear from PvP and PvE should work for both. The grind to get fully kitted in start PvP gear is so short… you can’t really put your foot down and have any gear advantage considering you’re fully kitted in 2 sessions of BG’s. Isn’t that the whole premise of an MMO??? Please get rid of the separate gear system. Just make the PvP grind for gear a lot longer so it’s comparable to the investment in PvE. Heck if you really want to make this feel like an MMO again. Have BiS for PvP and PvE a mix of the two sets together.
People not in megaguilds couldn’t stand a chance.
Since this was posted 11 hours ago, Id imagine you have 0 S1 conquest gear. No pvp sockets or gems. You could have gotten some heroic dungeon 600+ item level stuff if you wanted, but no one is done gearing for S1, because S1 gear cant be aquired yet.
The design philosophy is, alt friendly, fast honor gearing for sure, expensive but fast crafted pvp gear that is lower item level than honor gear for now if you wanted a leg up for the first few hours of launch, or while honor gearing a future alt. I’m just not seeing where the problem is. If you think acquiring certain pve pieces being pvp BIS is good for the health of pvp it isn’t, but it happens so your in luck if you like that.
people that want a gear advantage just want to feel powerful and like a winner without putting in any time or effort to actually get good at the game.
schools is this nations backbone
Yeah, OP sounds super cringe wanting a gear advantage because he lacks skill. Actually hilarious he’s admitting this in front of everyone lmfao
Gear shouldn’t impact PvP at all imo. New players jumping in and getting exploded by a single skill isn’t an enjoyable experience. “But mah gear advantage!!!.” Oh on, you have to actually try and can’t one shot people, the horror.
I don’t care how long or short the grind is for gear. Its the worst experience ever. I didn’t start having fun in BG’s until after I had a full set, and that’s only because I stopped exploding the minute I looked at anyone’s direction.
PvE and PvP are two wildly different forms of content and they should be treated as such. Gear/balance should not be interfering with the two modes, which is why they created templates so that nerfs and buffs wouldn’t impact one or the other.
It is possible to have a slight gear advantage by those who will min-max with the help of crafted gear optimization vs buying conquest gear only.
I don’t think we currently have “template design”, it is still very open, with the addition of Catalyst Tier and crafted gear. Sure some players will copy other player’s loadout, but that also happens in PVE for BiS gear.
The most important part of PVP gear is the max ilvl scaling and having a decent amount of versatility.
If you min-max, you may do your own testing and decisions for embellishments, tier or no tier, how much tier, whats my stat priority, what gear and gems get me the stats I want…and all that is great, that is gear progression and takes some thought and effort…and a bunch of gold.
If you take WoW heads BIS template and get all that if they have one for pvp gear… Thats probably decent. Different streamers have posted their recommendations and doing what they suggest is possibly good.
Absolutely not because it’s only really multiple PvE items that become op on PvP. Gearing right now is fine.
Sounds like you’re the noob who needs a gear advantage before they can kill anyone.
Go play classic.
Ya, if I had to pick, I’d choose the current system. I’d rather there be no gear, but the current system is 100% fine and I hope they leave it like this. Forcing pvpers to pve to be “BiS” is incredibly stupid. SWTOR did that for a long time and sort of still works that way and its incredibly frustrating. I imagine most pvpers don’t want to be forced to pve to be viable in pvp.
PvP was at it’s best when there were some BiS PvE items. PvP gear is extremely boring they should make some PvE gear BiS. Either some nice trinkets, weapon or Legendary.
Absolutely not.
Actually PvP was at its best when they had tier sets with resilience.
The reason is because pve and PvP WERE two seperated games. Along comes dunderhead ion who says “let’s break down the barriers and make it so the pve carebears can play too!” And PvP hasn’t been good ever since. The end
The initial gear grind from nothing is terrible. No doubt.
But I think it’s also the best (least bad) it has ever been.
Its tolerable now since I can farm gear for alts on my main, but its still not a great experience to enter pvp without gear. I’ll happily accept this current system over anything else they have done though.
In PVP your gear is paramount, only then does skill matter.