you are 100% wrong if you are applying what you said to all servers (which based on how and what you said, you are), which is what it seems you are doing, Also, we dont have to do any of that to grind honor, in fact since BGs world pvp is low, but when it is there, its very back and forth. I also have heard there were other servers out there in similar situations, but you only wanna focus on the bad ones, and include the good ones in your “argument” which makes it disingenuous.
I get it, you don’t like pvp servers, and your agenda is to try and make everyone else not like it, but some of us do, and some of us don’t have the issues that other servers do. While there are a majority of servers with an issue, its very disingenuous to ignore the ones that are balanced and worth checking out.
sorry, but if this isn’t happening on your server, its an outlying case. Every horde ranker knows that if he wants to stay competitive he has to go gank lvl 48+s in world pvp during his 1-2 hour queue.
you’re assuming I don’t like pvp servers when in reality I do like them, but they had to have faction limits early on, and they did not, its not disengenuous to ignore the ones that are balanced, because the majority of them are not, if a person would choose to play alliance on a pvp server at random, higher chances are they’ll have a bad time.
Actually it IS disingenuous, since the initial discussion is someone asking what server to play on, and your only pointing out the bad servers and issues with them. You are also making it seem like its this case across all of the servers, with no mention in your original statement of the more balanced ones.
As such, it comes across like
1: You dont like pvp servers (yes its an assumption, and can be wrong)
2: You are biased against pvp servers
3: Giving incorrect information as you are not giving all sides of a situation to help the person make a decision with all the facts.
because it is, every horde has the same 1-2 hour queues, and thus every horde, in order to compete, HAS to farm HKs in WPVP, even on servers where horde are not the dominating faction, and because alliance has INSTANT queues, all the pvpers are sitting in IF/SW for 3 minutes before jumping back into a game, there is no alliance force to meet these gankers in WPVP, NOR is there a reason for them to do so.
what i’m stating are facts, not biases, i get that you want to defend your little pvp server haven, facts are facts.
If you enjoy corpse running for 30-40 mins to enter a dungeon then by all means join a pvp server. If however you want to actually be able to play the game, then you join a pve server. you can still PvP to your hearts desire on a PvE server by enabling PvP and/or doing BGs but its YOUR choice.
Getting ganked over and over again while you’re trying to level your fishing isnt my idea of “fun”.
2nd, if he picks a alliance dominated server, do you think he would have an issue with horde doing world pvp. Yes you were stating facts on unbalanced servers with horde pvp, but its not ALL THAT WAY. Yes we have horde that do world pvp for honor, in High traffic areas like BRM, where, guess what a LOT of level 60s are. Sure a few lower levels sometimes do get ganked, but its not as likely as horde on my server at least do have honor. I have heard from other similar balanced servers its usually this case, because the smaller servers, actually have a sense of community.
So yes, you stated facts, in a manner that befit and was biased to your agenda that all pvp servers are not worth trying, which, as I stated before, is disingenuous of the other facts that there are other servers where that issue is almost non existent.
its not me defending my server, its me pointing out a fact, sorry you don’t like it.
My issue, is nobody acknowledges that there are servers he could find that the issue is not going to be as bad on and still play on a pvp server, but they are smaller servers and not everyone enjoys that as this day and age its all about “play on mega populated servers”
And statements like this are why I was laughing like hell when people were whining during phase 2. Seriously, they should have kept that going until Valentine’s.
Very true . . . and population doesn’t mean that much . . . on Grobbullus I have one character from each account on different factions. Horde is less overall population, like 15 percent less . . . but absolutely owns the open world. I stopped playing my alliance druid around 35 level because I could not get any quests done anywhere. All of this was due to Horde simply being way more active in the open world.
**** It’s funny to see this thread a year later . . . and most of those talking about Horde running pvp servers stand absolutely correct. Also, players like me showing up for burning crusade, have a lot of obstacles right now on the pvp servers. My horde troll is doing well, but as stated, abandoned my alliance mage and druid.