So even a minor deviation for exact 1 to 1 copy makes it so that we can just start changing everything while were at it. Yes it’s not 1 to 1 but they can at least keep it as close as possible without willingly starting to implement things that should not be present.
What lack of endgame, your post makes wild assumptions based on private server numbers and assumes a timeframe which Blizzard has not even yet announced. You are pulling numbers out of a hat why on earth would I ever take you seriously.
That’s a fair point, wayback machine can help you but only going so far. Though i do personally think experience > all, a lot of times. Even in normal settings in life, you don’t need to read a book on how to jump start your car etc, sure it’ll help but you do it a few times you’ll get the hang of it.
Thx for reminding me. I have no intention of being 60 the first month perhaps not even the second. Going to be playing with numerous friends, all of which live different lives.
I’m speaking for the overall health of the community. I want the best players to stick around in Classic. I want every player to stick around in Classic. Not having an endgame jeopardizes that.
For the love of god leave MC/Onyxia the hell alone.
It’s ENTRY level content let it have the difficulty as such. Theres plenty of content to do while we wait for the next raid batch.
-Farm recipes
-Level and gear alts if you don’t actually like what you chose
-Pvp.
-Farm materials for upcoming content.
-Make gold so you can afford your mount.
-Cap out your bags.
-Bank up consumables/enchants/
-Have fun with your friends doing w/e the hell you wanna do.
-run dungeons and practise the 45 min baron run.
-rep farm
-play retail
#nochanges. Unless they tune it to current mythic levels of difficulty then you are simply not going to get the experience you had.
That’s on the players themselves to manage, not on you. Theres nothing wrong with raid logging if you can’t find something you enjoy.
We know the second the new content bucket gets released everyones going to be going in to the hilt on it and people will get their second then third then 4th wind for it.
I haven’t seriously raided or done endgame since MoP when my guild went our separate ways. Profile skim and discredit is a pretty common forum tactic.
Call it what you will, Seasons, TBC progression servers in 2 years… whatever. These ‘Content Roadmap or The Game Dies’ brand of posts are dogs that won’t hunt for me. Part of the problem with retail is the kill boss and logout for 6 months crowd which I’m happy to say isn’t my bag.
BWL was released 8 months after Classic’s release. Mind you, it took 5 months for the World First Ragnaros kill. This only left 3 months between content patches for just the absolute best guilds. Everyone else was still working on MC.
I’m going to assume the same timeframe will be used for Classic since I highly doubt you and everyone else screaming #nochanges will manage to come to a revelation.
If it takes the average player 4 months to get to 60. That’s at least another 4 months where a 3 hour raid is the only endgame. Beyond that, for any organized guild and most PuGs of level 60s, MC will have been on farm for 2 months before that.
That’s not healthy for the game. If you don’t see that, I simply don’t know what to say.
Sure, I’ll log back on retail I suppose. It’s just my opinion that Classic can be a lot more than that.
Just for the record, for some super old accounts the achievements didn’t port over correctly and the armory data is corrupt. I opened up a ticket an a GM tol me as such.
Wow. You know. I was thinking that in 3 years, when classic content was all released, it might be a good idea to release more classic framed content keeping the spirit of classic but not having players leave due to boredom.
Uh oh this account isn’t even the one I played vanilla with! I feel sometimes posters are a little too combative on here (not you). We all want the same thing: a fun rewarding classic experience.
A couple of things can actually do this.
-You don’t have any gear equipped from the last boss of the instance or theres no quest completion to back it up.
-You haven’t logged into said toon between activation of achieves and when you last played it.So it’s possible to get the OG GM title tomorrow if you haven’t touched that toon since the end of TBC.
You assume that MC will be a 3 hour raid for an average player…heh heh heh…you are indeed funny. Newsflash it will be significantly longer.
And an average player will have 1-2 months of getting blues as their endgame before even stepping inside MC.
I would dare to say that average player won’t even clear MC before BWL is launched.
When it comes to organized very high end guilds I do agree that those will probably have MC on farm by the second month.
But let’s keep in mind that this is a miniscule amount of people were talking maybe hundred ish people per server on average.
They will simply humor themselves with other stuff like farming consumables and ganking people for fun. Or heaven forbid play some other games too or maybe go outside for a while.
A couple of flaws.
-You’re assuming the content is going to be 6 months apart.
-We’re gauging clear times off faulty data, alot of PS will hold steady but alot of things won’t, Fire res calculations im looking at you.
-Consumables and world buffs could potentially be diffferent. Reduced amounts of flasks will massively slow clear times.
-Youre completely forgetting that while you might be able to skip MC but you won’t be skipping BWL onwards and guilds will still have to progress through all the raid content.
-Not everyone is a nolife PS junky. Logging in twice a week to get farm done and to get their farming done is a normal thing for normal people.
Theres so many variables that we just don’t know that will come into effect till they actually happen.
You probably should have just lead with this. But I have similar concerns about long-term longevity.
Still, we are getting a museum piece, and we’ve seen how that goes down in pserver land many times in the past. People do eventually lose interest, it’s not like that is some amazing revelation. It’s why we got expacs to the original game. Onwards and upwards…
They’ve already changed things by not having diremaul available on release for the non-american part of the world. I think it’s not worth getting worked up about.
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