Want players to feel welcome and inclusive in all areas of the game, Blizzard? How about fixing this Latin American/US realm mess you created and do something about it.
You tied Ragnaros, Quel’thalas, and other non-English realms into US realms without a care in the world as to how those players can communicate with one-another, and look what happened.
Many of us consistently decline Ragnaros et. al players from groups strictly because of language barriers - language barriers that YOU created when you decided to connect Latin America and US realms together so that the CEO could buy a new yacht with the savings.
No wonder there’s so much toxicity often associated with or perceived with LA realms - you fostered this by clashing multiple cultures and languages together without providing the players any reasonable tools to work around it. Now I finally understand the core of the problem. No one should be expected to learn Spanish and Portuguese to play with players connected to an English region. The problem isn’t the US players, or the LA players - it’s you, Blizzard.
Put in an in-game translator if you’re actually serious about inclusivity so we can finally stop declining people just because of the realm they’re on, and can start playing together to enjoy our common interest - love for World of Warcraft.
I wonder if it’s like this for the EU servers. I’d imagine you’d run into people who don’t speak your country’s primary language comes up way more often.
Not really. People in those countries all learn English in addition to their countries’ language to avoid having to learn dozens of languages because countries are the size of states and you’re less than an hour away from like 5 other countries at any given time.
They did this out of necessity. There are not enough players in each language bracket to facilitate otherwise.
It is MUCH MUCH worse in EU.
Either way, an in-game translator is an interesting option, but I can’t imagine that is a realistic ask.
It also might be seen as insensitive too, to the minority languages being looked down upon even further.
In the end, a lack of communication in pugs is the least important thing on Blizzard’s platter.
Plenty of groups don’t communicate well even if they speak the same language, so you’d never make any progress trying to address this.
Is this really a problem? I rarely run into this issue. If I pushed higher keys I’d make sure everyone could understand. If not I’d replace them. If they started a grp I’d expect the same. I don’t speak Spanish or Portuguese so they should kick me.
Yea but it’s easier to just call you racist and blame you for all the problems, so they can expand their market without actually putting in the effort required to make it work.
I’m not so sure it really is that big a deal, really. I’ve had some people tell me it’s “racist” to want to have people speak English or have Discord as a requirement, but that’s one hell of a reach.
You need to be able to communicate clearly and quickly in keys. Speaking two different languages the entire time is a surefire way to kill that. Don’t know why some people don’t get that.
FF11 came out like 20 years ago and had an in-game translator for everything you’d need to work together in a group. When you type there’s phrases that can autocomplete for you and if you lock that phrase in it showed up (Like this.) for you but to the other viewer it would read in their language.
It’s 2021. We got google auto translators now. I can have websites translated to me on the spot. There’s apps on phones that can also translate recorded language. They are a multi billion dollar company I think it is worth investing in.
Especially since this tech wouldn’t just be used for latin america. There’s this place called Europe with its own region. And it’s like about the size of the united states of america. But imagine every state in the US is like its own country. With their own language.
Now put them all on the same servers together. Trying to throw players under the bus as if “we don’t communicate enough when we speak the same language” is a different issue and BS. Everyone that could have communicated just fine is denied the chance thanks to that shortsightedness style of thinking.
Yea I don’t see it as racism. I don’t hate them or anything. Brazil has always been on my lists of places to visit before I die, culture looks awesome. However if we don’t understand one another, we ain’t timing that key. What’s the point? I imagine they’d feel the same about my not speaking their language. I’d take no offense to that.
I remember all the fun we had with the translator lol. Even with English speaking people we’d use it cause we were lazy and the auto complete was faster.
There is an in-game system. It’s called Macros and figure it out.
Honestly, I group with Rag all the time and we get things done. It’s not as bad as everyone says. Far worse than the people speaking Spanish is the people who don’t say jack-ish, or the people who are playing a DPS only class and yet screaming at tanks for no reason.
If you say so. I have never played a game that auto-translated anything I typed.
These are games with MUCH bigger reach than final fantasy 11.
There must be a reason why that is the case.
I’m not smart enough to know it, but I highly doubt its just “all these companies are lazy” or what, something even worse?
Your solution to solving coordination and communication issues is to use macros (what?) and “figure it out”. If “figure it out” worked so well, there wouldn’t be such a widespread issue with LA players getting declined left and right, and vice versa.
Ignoring the problem doesn’t fix it. Any activity that requires dynamic coordination and communication is hurt by this.
FFXI had a simplistic auto translator, that seemed to be built slightly better than FFXIV’s imho. https://youtu.be/nTIXOTXw7ys
Certain key words or simple phrases since it’s launch used to get groups and endgames set up quicker versus FFXIV’s translator that “loosely” communicate with JPN/Other region players.