Pushback on expansion for better pvp system~Blizzard? Why?

I’m just curious how many people wouldn’t mind if they push back the release date on Shadowlands to make sure they get the PvP system correct this time around.

Would love to see Account wide polls done by blizzard to see how many people agree on the current PvP system and the route its going and how likely they’re gonna continue to play the game if they don’t add stuff like PvP-stats and so on.

It’s time blizzard listens to the community, so why not ask us all??? let our voices be heard, let everyone who plays this game enjoy it in a way they want to rather then forcing them to do stuff they don’t want to.

The pay-to-win system that’s currently in effect does nothing in the end but ruin a game.

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I’m sure that such a poll would come out that people love the current system.

And when I say “people” I mean PvErs / casuals who don’t actually engage in PvP ever (or in more than every once in a blue moon) nor want to - as they probably represent the majority nowadays.

If such a poll is to be effective they’d have to do serious limitations as to who was allowed to vote (only people who’s participated in XYZ amount of PvP over the last 6-8 years)

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everyone’s opinions should be heard, tbh i think more then just PvP questions should be asked, we pay enough for this game, some of us 10+years, there should be other ways to get our voices heard besides forums

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Heck nah. Want BFA (Beta for Azeroth) to end alrdy. Terrible xpac.

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I’d rather wait a lil bit longer, for them to fix something that could benefit the game long term, then to rush it and everyone end up leaving the game for games like Ashes Of Creation and so on

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I would say it is equally foolish to put out an unfinished product as well as to buy said product before it’s complete. I don’t know if this is how they normally do things, but if they are this close to the release date and still aren’t clear on what they wanna do and probably have no new cool feature, it’s a bad sign.

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i just want traits and corruption to go away asap.

sucks that some1 has 30 percent more vers than me just because they chose to farm echoes. i cant be arsed to farm echoes on every single toon i have, screw that

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They just need to ask everyone questions, by giving a poll that everyone can access in the char select screen

I def agree we should have a poll done

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Anyone else immediately picture the Leo laughing meme at the mere thought of blizzard considering what the pvp community wants? Pretty sure there is a thread with over 2 thousand replies not too far below this one. How’s that one going?

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The faster they start listening to the casual players and not just the top tier streamers, the faster this game will be fixed.

I could careless for the opinion of a streamer that the only way his game play is effected is by stream snipers in Wpvp… they need to start listening to the people that dont have access to rank 1 players or rank 1 pve guilds that can exchange pve carrys for pvp carrys and so on…

Its time blizzard listens to EVERYONE give EVERYONE a voice, not like we havnt paid our way for long enough, each player that has played over 10 years has easily paid over $2,800 in monthly subscriptions alone, not to add all the other stuff in shop you can buy like faction changes and so on… most these top players dont even pay for the subscriptions anymore they use the gold they get from carrying ppl to pay for the months subscription…

Yet us casual players are forced to buy tokens buy monthly subs buy all this extra crap yet our voices arn’t being listened to… not like its reg PvE players buying these tokens for carrys cause they will just group up with guilds and do it, its straight up PVP players almost everyone i see in the carrys are old or current PVP players trying to return to the game in hopes that PVP is fixed.

There is reasons games like Ashes Of Creation and such are getting the hype, look how much they’re trying to take the input of everyone even the PVP scene, you have legit guilds with thousands of players leaving this game for better PVP games, its not PVE players leaving this game in record numbers, hasnt been a better time to PVE then now, its legit only PVP players leaving…

Write a letter to the board of directors and try to persuade them. Convince them how a change in application of resources to the pvp portion of their business will result in a bigger bottom line. If you can do this, I promise you will see change. If you cannot, well…here we are.

Only thing Battle For Azeroth has brought us is the Battle for our voices to be heard in the PvP community.
Blizzard never will care at this point it seems, its only one side of the game thats arguing, if PvE players were forced to PVP to get best in slot gear and that gear only came from 2400+rating you would see stuff change very fast…

Now you’re getting it.

If I had to listen to the opinion of a rocket scientist versus a guy who watches rockets explode on YouTube, I’m gonna go with the guy who has more experience and knowledge.

That’s the way things should be. We all listen to experts in the field because they understand the topic more then the average joe.

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Just give us legit 2 sets of gear where 1 set isn’t better in the part of game they didn’t earn it from…
You don’t wanna PVP to be able to PVE you shouldn’t have to
You dont wanna PVE to be able to PVP you shouldn’t have to
HOW HARD IS THAT FOR BLIZZARD TO UNDERSTAND???
By no means do I think someone in Full PVP gear should be able to join a mythic raid and do better DPS then people in Full Mythic gear but I also think the same way when it comes to PVP, by no means should someone in Raid gear not even that good of gear be able hop into PVP and ROFLSTOMP your way up to 2400+rating b4 people at that rating are getting actual getting good gear and even then if you look at the PVP ladder almost everyone in PVE gear, most these trinkets can 1 SHOT anyone in PVP gear thats below 2400 rating lmao…

Rethumtv- There is a huge diff in that argument tho… these streamers and such aren’t experiencing the same set back as a casual players, most ppl fan boy and pretty much give these streamers anything they want, so by no means do i think one of these streamers voices are more valuable then mine or yours… id challenge ANY STREAMER to play off stream with non of the contacts they have go on a random server and try to gear the way its set up now without doing PVE and only do that for maybe 2-3 hours a couple days of the week, tell me how well your experience is and how willing you are to keep playing the game, most the comments and input these streamers get are LEGIT trolls…

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Well I thought you were getting it…They know, Freakout. They know. They do understand. They don’t care. CEO took home $40 million. Decisions are made based on money. That’s how this works. Regardless of what we think, they will change things once THEY are convinced that their potential gains will be negatively affected. Period. They know…

but anyways im off to log into wow to see what my tokens bought me this week in gear in this sweet PAY TO WIN SYSTEM WE HAVE HERE #CHEERSBLIZZARD :d

This game went to hell the moment they caved into casuals.

Casuals should never have a say in the game balance.

you think they would delay en expansion to work on pvp lol? Pvp is an afterthought to them. You must be new here.

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