Blizzard why did you make content that is so anti disable friendly? You do understand that you need to balance hard content with pacing, and if you going to add a timer that rushes people. Token removing on failures does not help.
My friend who plays at a slower pace. Can’t enjoy visions…and since this is the major content of said patch. You just gave them the middle finger in your game design.
I’m sure your friend and other disabled people enjoy you speaking for them and using them as your fall guy.
This. There are plenty of things to do in this game that will cater to “your slow friend”
Its an mmo. Grinding a vision for a big reward is the design. Go in it and have fun. Your friend obviously doesn’t need the top end gear from it anyhow
I don’t raid? So my two cents don’t matter? Are you that ill?
I’m so glad you came into a thread, talking about non raid content. To point out that I don’t raid. Your genius is showing.
I don’t raid at all and I don’t think Visions are hard. Maybe it’s just not the content for you. Besides once you learn them you’ll get the hang of them. Thus it becomes easier.
Good thing I asked him, and he said he does not care. As he done with wow until SL.
To people saying that he should quit. He did for now, this is the first time that he felt game design limited his enjoyment. Wow has been great about things like this until vision.
And I can tell with the answers some of you are giving, That is the quality of players he is suppose to group with and understand his pacing right?
This is the first time they did content like this, and now he should just leave because wow has changed on this one content patch wow is not for him?
Visions do have an easy mode. You just don’t do the other wings. Sorry but that’s the point.
You don’t get to do Dark Visions and clear all wings. Just kill Alleria/Thrall and maybe if you CAN do one wing. That’s easy mode. The challenge and difficulty scales up when you go to other wings. You’re not entitled to those wings.
Instead of different difficulties of the same instance, they chose to go with additional content in the same instance. So you choose your difficulty. Trust me… You’re not missing out in killing extra mobs. Having a weaker version of the Dark Vision just means… nothing.
Enjoy.
Most casuals aren’t expected to even clear the full wings until then. I solo’d my first Dark Vision and I never even played on the PTR or looked up a guide, although it clarified all my questions after my first one.
I play with family members… who trust me… Play at a VERY slow pace. They would NOT be able to do a solo vision, if their life depended on it.
I helped them. That increases the difficulty with more people. Carry your friend.
Visions don’t required for anything except themselves and upgrade of the cloak. As I can see you clearly don’t require high Ilvl items (since you still in blues even though run mythics 0 would be a piece of cake for you).
So this guy just pointed this. If you don’t raid or do mythics plus why do you even care about visions? Why wont you just wait till catch up mechanics come to you and actually catch up?
I love when blizzards give us something to overcome and I know for 100% I will never be in first strokes of the ladder where people are really commit to this game for even 90%.
Cause I care a little bit too less than they are, and for me it’s perfectly fine. I’m waiting my moment to take what I can. You for some reason want everybody else who even wants to STRUGGLE through all the obstacles to not struggle and you want to… (I actually don’t know what do you want here, to make so Blizzards will give stuff for free? Make it MUCH MUCH easier?).
Also. People already mentioned this, but Visions are utterly easy. You just need to understand their mechanics and read tactics. If you want to make every decision that you make — right, then again, you should play some other game, like match 3, cause you can’t be wrong there. All other games requires you to be decent in their core mechanics and understand their strategies.
No, my point is that its always people like you that complain about the most trivial stuff. God forbid the game be challenging.
Doing the extra wings, aka increasing the difficulty, is what they probably tried.
Just kill Alleria/Thrall, Alleria right now I believe, then get out. You get your upgrade. Increasing the difficulty, going into different wings, is for players with more skill.
Why not just rewrite the vision and have another shot for like 200 momentos or something. Ive lost a few due to terrible RNG and dumb mistakes
I bet you use LFG system, and premade raiding thinking you are such a good raider right? The level of EGO behind your statements makes me laugh.
Since this community seems to not understand what an rpg, and wonders why someone wants to improve stats even if they don’t raid is mind blowing, or even ask the question why do you want to chase the carrot if you don’t use it in raiding, shows a clear lack of understanding of what an rpg is, or the history of what an MMO is. Here is a little hint, Raiding is NOT the only thing that matters in an mmo. Or even group content.
Also, for you people who are saying. This is for content is good. That is not the point of the thread at all. The point is, it takes him longer to overcome things, and he always found a way to get better, or find HIS way of doing things. It just takes him longer, and requires more time.
This system does not help him in that area, and it is content that could be fun for him, but because failing means that he does not get another chance at content that is suppose to last how long? So he gets 3 fails a week? He wants to try and fail, but he enjoys overcoming. This system does not let him do it at a pace that is fun.
It takes a pretty big ego to question why someone in a rpg would want to get better gear if they don’t raid.
You realize he can just kill Alleria/Thrall and collect his reward right?
That is not the point at all? What does that have to do with price eggs in china?
The point is not that it is hard, but that it punishes. He is to grind very slowly up to the point where he is so op that he can do the other content with ease? So how is that going to help him enjoy the tougher content?
It is not that it is hard, it is that he is limited on chances to do said hard content to overcome.
He will get there eventually, besides if all your friend wants to do is world quests then he doesn’t need a maxed out cloak anytime soon anyway so why does it matter?
Out of all the mmos i’ve ever played. Only the wow community has ever asked a person why in a rpg do you want to improve yourself if you don’t raid.
You also missed the whole point of, you know the enjoyment of tough content, to overcome without limiting on chances to do said content.
Does this really make you feel better about yourself that you belittle another gamer that is obviously not on the same level as you? was this really necessary?
You do know that the game has more casual players than elite players and without casuals you would soon have no game to play
You should strive to help others to become better and help the game progress to better things
Price eggs in China are serious business.
hahahah. WOW.
The level of EGO behind the insinuation that “I want that for no reason, so I must’ve deserved it and must get it” is beyond incredible.
Community clearly understand what’s MMORpg is like and for. But what is mindblowing that you clearly don’t understand that being better/stronger/faster/have more iLvl than the competition members IS what an MMORPG is all about.
You aren’t playing in RPG, this is massively multiplayer online game. So when it is massively multiplayer’ed, one just dreams to be on top of that massive multiplayer ladder, but you being on it’s lowest start just demand that everyone else would be the same as you even though you don’t give anything to achieve that.
And this is baffling.
it takes only logic. No other content in this game except Mythinc+ and Raids requires you to be relevant and want to get more powerful gear. Blizzards even made PvP balanced over large amount of ilvl gear between people and you deal almost the same damage as someone who have much higher ilvl than you do.
Casual game with content that isn’t raid content and you’re harping on their lack of raiding? Seriously?
I mean, if they were complaining about raids or high keys, sure… but we’re talking about world content here.
That’s what I was thinking. LOL
Indeed. It is supposed to be a challenge. It gets easier as the claok goes up. And unless they’re running raid content, the higher levels don’t matter much except for corrupted gear.
Because it’s new content to run. That makes sense to me.
That also makes sense to me. I feel like they should just let people run it as much as they want. Just put a cap on how much they get out of them.
Except that’s not what he’s saying at all…