No it’s more like avoiding being associated with psychos at GD who might pester gm’s over a slight on the internet.
Reminder at anything past 10 people do look at that type of stuff.
I don’t want to see another launch/xpac ruined by half baked systems.
#PullTheRipcord
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Yep… It’s just extra stuff and calculations that simply don’t need to be there. Some of us want a stable world again so we can get back to WPvP and destroying each other.
This is probably the most accurate summary.
Covenants are cool, borrowed power defeats the point of covenants.
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People are complaining about Covenants because it won’t be fun being locked in to one set of abilities. Same reason they complained about Azerite/Essences/Corruptions.
The whole design seems pointless to me. From my understanding; before you choose a covenant you will already have played through each covenants questlines. You will have already gotten a chance to learn and experiment with each ones abilities you would gain from choosing that covenant.
I don’t understand why the meaningful covenant choice can’t be purely cometic/rp based and we can’t have a simple talent row style choice of all 4 covenant abilities that we can change in rest zones. We already learned each ability along the way, right? Are the Night Fae really gonna kick me out if they heard that I was using some Venthyr magic while I was out adventuring?
There was just no reason to tie player power to specific covenants. On almost every character I have, the covenant I want to choose for aesthetics is not the one that I will be picking, because the abilities of a different cov are better.
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It’s not going to be the expansion everyone think it is. Locking people into borrowed power shouldn’t be a thing and you are right, not letting people play the Covenant they think is cool is pointless.
People will go for BIS first unless they remove the pointlessness that is borrowed power from the game.
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Yep and the worst part is when blizzard “adjusts” things and then certain things become useless and you wasted tons of your time for nothing.
The developer team just has no hindsight, we’re not going to like the third iteration of borrowed power… I didn’t like ANY iteration of borrowed power.
Like, how many times are they going to try and reincorporate the old talent system into the game, just add the old damn talent system back and stop creating extra calculations.
Class balance needs to not exceed anything outside classes and Legendaries need to go back to Hand of Rag/Blessed Blade level of Legendary… Not oh by the way here’s a random legendary drop.
I’m not sure what things that have the answer plain as day in front of them need to be repeated.
Stop trying to recreate the wheel Blizzard >_<
What do you get out of World PvP that’s actually meaningful? Oh boy I killed some guy 3 times. Anyways back to the real stuff I was actually doing…
I’m glad this isn’t the direction the game is going in. “No content. Just kill eachother because why not?” Does not sound like fun. It might work in a game like Halo, but not WoW.
I agree but I still wonder what type of game we would of had if they continued to add on the artifact system. They could of added more passives to the weapons without the ap grind then put in a new row or two for talents.
What do you get killing a program that is actually meaningful? Oh boy I killed some program 3 times. Anyways back to the real stuff I was actually doing…
I’m glad you have your opinions, because PvP is endgame content for good portion of the community. Not some program that gives you no dynamic fight and you have to kill over and over just to get a piece of loot.
So let me tell you what I think they got right, Darkshore/Arathi highlands was damn near close to perfect… minus the fact it wasn’t overland and it was instances. Destructible buildings you can assail for resources and dynamic fights each and every time.
NPCs can never offer a dynamic fight every time, they never will. Not even in Torghast, eventually there will be a strat for every boss there just like Brawlers Guild.
Then what?
Guess what, there IS no strat and premade plan to destroy someone in PvP and that’s what you don’t seem to get.
Adding Aerial Combat, Tanks, Boats would add layers and depths to the game and eventually would leave to a living breathing world which they already have the pieces right in front of them. We can already cut down trees and harvest nodes and rocks and thats AWESOME.
Now do more with it.
Warfronts were some of the most boring pieces of content ever made.
Raids are fun because they actually provide challenge and give meaningful rewards. Of course a strategy will be developed eventually but it’s far more fun than mindlessly throwing yourself against another group for no reason.
Battlegrounds are cool. We need more of them. Open world battlegrounds? Sure. But not at the expense of other forms of content like you want.
Obviously a player whose more focused on the so called competitive scene would think this way 
The Russian space goat speaks wisdom. Listen to him.
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Man you don’t know too much about wPvP mate if you think throwing yourself at people is mindless.
A good organized group has tactics they use, but they need to be changed on the fly. Which provide a greater challenge then running a raid that has a set strat made by the top raid guilds who beat it in beta…
Not open world battlegrounds, just open world that is dynamic and changing.
Who cares if we lose a raid, raids are the same. Go in with the strat that someone formulated, do the thing and kill a program.
It’s literally just mindlessly killing people for no reason.
Yeah and your definition of a dynamic open world is having tanks and higher resolution cities. You keep using these vague terms of “dynamic” and “engaging” or “interactive” yet you haven’t explained to me what that entails.
While I’m not a fan of some of Blizzard’s Covenant ideas and restrictions, your statement of using the forums to gauge the overall view the community has on Covenants is disingenuous. Very few people go out of their way to leave positive reviews of different places or services, and the same goes for WoW. Players just don’t go online to forum pages to voice their pleasure with an aspect of the game.
Usually it is the people who have critiques about something that are the ones that go out of there way to show their dissatisfaction. Looking at the numbers on the forums for how many pro vs con covenant people exist is not at all indicative of what all of the players who have never stop foot here want.
No one just trots into the WoW forums, especially General Discussion, to talk about what they like about the game.
Figuring out the puzzle is fun. World pvp is a mess arenas can be fun when corruption isn’t making them awful.