Pugging Ruined

Gameplay Dungeons, Raids and Scenarios
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With the new .5 patch came aug evoker and some spec reworks, and what Blizzard have effectively done is completely screw up the ability for any dps besides aug evoker/mage/spriest get into any keys. And this all happened MID SEASON. I thought the philosophy Blizzard had was to not mess too much with the current meta so you didn’t have this exact situation happen where people who were successfully pushing got shafted.

So far I have not been able to get into any groups with the new changes, and if nothing changes I basically will be locked out of M+ for the rest of the season.

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Somehow locked out of using your own key?

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I have friends that I play with so I need to hold my key for them. I can’t always play with them so pugging is the only other alternative.

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Yeah you are basically wasting you time if you are a non meta DPS class now. It’s jus 2 meta class + aug.

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Eh, all the patch did was add another variable as to why a DPS may not be invited. There were already already a dozen if not more reasons why, the patch and augmentation evokers just made the competition even harsher.

The only work around atm really is to do your own key.

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That doesn’t sound “locked out of the season”, just inconvenient at times your friends aren’t on. It’s not as though you use your key, and it’s gone forever. You get another one more or less immediately, of approximately the same level, so you will always have a key when your friends are on. Will it be your favorite? Who knows!

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I think if he pugs the level of key he has he usually gets one that’s 1 lower…

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Eh, it happens. Plug it in, try again! :smiley: Still isn’t being “locked out of the season”, this dramatic take makes it appear as though this person is 100% incapable of running any more keys this season, and that’s just not accurate.

I do feel a little bit of sympathy for those that play classes that aren’t currently FOTM because they love them (I always main druid, idc how good or bad they are lol), as high end groups and wannabes at lower levels will only bring those classes that fit the “meta” (I hate these terms so much haha).

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Look at it on the bright side, there are more non-meta classes than there are meta classes. All rejects can unite and play just fine.

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I’ve been trying to tell all the anti-leaver people to play together for years, I expect the same results from this.

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This is actually exactly what is happening to a lot of people who are above cutoff, we cannot get into any pugs in lfg. I’ve had discussions with some people who are higher IO than me and everyone is in agreement this is absolutely terrible.

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I mean you can always run your own keys, you’re just giving some lame excuse for why you can’t. Are you like… the only person in your group providing keys or something? Do you guys just not say “hey who has what key” and decide from there? If you’re group is competent, why can’t you just choose one person’s key and push it?

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he’s 3.2k+ io, i’m pretty sure his group is competent

he’s not talking about the same pugging problems i think most people on the forums will ever encounter

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The season is now completely different to what it used to be a week ago.
Holy paladin is completely broken if you compare it to any other healer, all their tool kit is out of this expansion, its like they were already strong, but they got buffed by 30-40% if not mare. Being in a key with holy paladin I fear nothing, no healing checks, no matter what dmg I take I know it will be healed and people won’t die.

Mage all specs, they are just better than any other class right now, they do infinite dmg, if you don’t bring a mage to your dungeon run you are just trolling right now. Same as holy paladin, they do about 20 to 30% more dmg when any other class in the game.

Aug evoker is probably the best spec in the game right now, no groups wants to run without them right now, they bring way to much to the group, infinite support, offheals, a lot of shields, and huge dmg buff to the group. They might look bad in the details but if you run logs they always top dmg.

Guardian druid… the buff they got is crazy, they don’t need healer at all and they actually heal your group as well, in 24+keys they outheal healer by goo 30% and never die.

Now you got classes like shadow priest who is just good for both support and dmg, with how many dispels are needed and offhealing parried with PI to support the mage its a must spec to have.

With all this you have the chosen comp for dungeon made of Guardian druid/mage ( any spec ) shadow priest, aug evoker and holy paladin. You don’t need any other class or spec, thats what people want right now and if you don’t play this specs you can’t get into groups.

If before this patch we had problems with healing checks… well now with this comp you can do keys 2-3 lv higher without a problem at all, but if you bring other specs nothing has changed.

It simply feels like if you play this chosen specs you are in completely different world right now.

The balance this patch is none existent for all specs and its not just 5%… its a good 30% if not more in all aspects, healing, dmg dealing and tanking.

PS: Mage in my last group did almost 2 mild dps during burst on aoe packs and ended up with 239k+ overall in a dungeon. Of course it got boosted by PI and Aug evoker with paladin blessing but still its crazy on how broken they are.

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Run your key when your friends aren’t online, if it upgrades great, if not great, who said you have to hold your key for them? You’ll always have a spot in a group this way.

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What is the point of this if all I want are those chosen classes ? I won’t invite into my key anyone else but aug evoker, guardian druid a mage and a paladin healer. Same will be for anyone else who wants to time their keys.

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Ok, that’s fine you can do that, have a certain comp as you’ve described above. I have zero problem getting into keys.

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this is because you do keys 8 levels lower than OP

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Oh please, really. I have a full-time busy life and I also raid. Got anything better to say?

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The very top end having a strict meta is very surprising.

3 dps slots for 26 dps specs.

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