wondering how many havoc dh out there are able to pug m+ 10s with 2.4k io, you can leave simple Y / N.
i for one can’t get into any m+ 10 pug with ilvl 629 and 2442 io, this season is somehow worse than DF S1 where i could pug my way to 2.5k, might even be the worst season for havoc ever
i have no idea why it chose to use my long forgotten alt as the author’s profile
I tried to pug as havoc, and its next to impossible if you don’t run your own keys. From the extremely rare chances i get invited,its because they see my main io but even that doesn’t really help which feels weird.
i’ve tried pugging +13 keys as a DH, and every level from +11 and +12 is a nightmare to pug.
I gave up on trying +13 because nobody wants a DH, even though I’m 638 ilvl.
Y no issues
Can they do it? Yes. Are you taken often? No, not really. You’re going to have to run your own keys more often than not.
When you can grab a DK, SHM, SURV, or ROG to fill a melee spot, why would you bring a DH? Their dps is lower and their utility is less or not enough to warrant taking.
People will say it doesn’t matter, but it’s not true. it’s already a crap shoot when pugging, so you are going to want classes that bring the most to the table, in order to make the run eas smooth as possible with mistakes.
Vengeance has an easier time, but that’s largely because of tank privelage.
I have no issues pugging on any of my alts by making my own group.
Glad people have brought this up. I was hoping that the devs would address this.
It feels like havoc has always been created with M+ in mind. But it is sooo friggin annoying, only those who play havoc will understand how much we suffer. We never get invited into grps unless we create one ourselves. We are supposed to be the gods of AOE and yet here we are with utility that is inferior to almost every other class and with CD’s that could easily miss.
The “mover” spec that Havoc is pushed into is a straight up liability just based off of how it directly conflicts with WoW’s core gameplay design. To say nothing of the game glitches that can yeet you 60 yards across the dungeon on a Fel-Rush whenever the game is in the mood.
That makes bringing a Havoc DH a high stakes gamble and Havoc doesn’t really have the DPS numbers to make that gamble worth it if you’re trying to avoid key depletion.
I got into an 11+ SV last night after less than a minute on the page.
I think it was the second listing I clicked.
Went great and we killed it with like 4-5 minutes left.
Maybe it’s getting better. My usual experience is 10-20 minutes of being denied
We need something like lust maybe?
One for crit would be gangster
Like 10% crit for party
People are more interested in your io than your chosen class. Prove you can do it successfully and you’ll get into groups with players who also have high io more easily. This might require you pushing your own key or joining friends or guildies to get that io though.
I do agree that a bloodlust would be good for the class.