Public Company Blizzard is a Disgrace

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Still not boosting MMR this late into the season, when numerous pros are sitting at the top of the RSS ladder (the most popular game mode, especially for newer PvPers) without having to queue at all. This gives them time to play 900 alts each so that players just trying to put in work and complete their transmog set (which is totally incomplete without the weapon) have to play vs R1 and current Gladiator players in every game.

This is fine if you aren’t a healer, and not as bad if you aren’t a healer with weak sustained healing (which is necessary for increased dampening zergfest that is RSS).

The only solution that makes any sense is to BOOST RATING! Why has Blizzard not done this yet? What is the reasoning?

Pros should be 3000-3200 MMR, not 2550 for 3 weeks without queueing (for my spec it is literally the same 3 people sitting top of ladder and they have not queued in weeks, and their alts of same spec are also sitting at the top). There are 18 players above 2400 for my spec in RSS, but it’s more like 10 players because they also have alts sitting there.

I just played a lobby today with a BLIZZCON CHAMPION in it. So… I’m good enough to be playing in matches with Blizzcon Champions as a gimped healing class, but not good enough to get a stupid transmog weapon?

Why are you punishing your loyal customers so heavily, Blizzard? Why are you doing this to loyal players who put in the work over years in your game? What is the reasoning?

Please take care of the players who support your game and give us a rating increase, which literally everyone is asking for. You can limit it to RSS, because that is the main mode that new players are stepping into as they learn the game. It should be totally acceptable and normal for pros to be 3000-3300 rating in Solo Shuffle. It is not Gladiator. You are not giving away Gladiator by increasing RSS. Stop resisting this much needed fix, Blizzard. You are hurting the people who support you.

There are over 100 HPals over 2400 rating, but only 18 for my healer spec, and there are numerous players with 2 characters above 2400 for my spec who have been sitting for WEEKS without queueing because they know how bad it is. So there is no MMR to gain as all the healers I am queueing into are better classes that a player of equal skill should beat me every time on, because you dial dampening up to 10000000% in 5 seconds so raw healing is all that matters (which my spec does not have).

Blizzard, please do something soon.

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“You’re a disgrace” -Blizzard

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you know paid boosting can get you banned right? I would not be advertising this

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What does that even mean? Can you elaborate as to what you are even talking about?

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He’s implying that you’re paying for boosts.

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How does that make any sense? I played in a lobby today as a 2100 CR healer with a Blizzcon Champion in it as one of the DPS players. What on earth does that have to do with boosting? Am I missing something??

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I don’t know. I’m just telling you what i think he meant by it

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This forum is nothing but trolls who will rather see their fellow players suffer than to unite and get any meaningful action from Blizzard. It’s just a forum of defeatists and sadists. This game is really doomed if Blizzard doesn’t help its playerbase before this season is over.

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Typical gnome player tbh

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Post on your main.

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It’s a cosmetic that you regard as stupid. Why does it bother you so much that you can’t get it (at least not yet)?

Really?

Don’t get me wrong, I would be down for more mmr, but this post is just another “buff disc” thread, and Blizzard has been incrementally buffing them, which is the right way to go about it.

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It’s stupid as in it should not be something reserved for players at the top. It is a consolation prize for the upper-middle class if you will. Players who can get Gladiator or better are the “top-end”, a mere 2400 achievement in RSS should not be what it currently is in terms of difficulty. Period.

The right way to go about it is to inflate rating to the point that decent, competent and dedicated players can reach 2400, even if they are playing a healer class. Let rating expand to the 3300~ range as I stated, and if they really care about fixing things, they should also institute decay above 2400 for not queueing at least once per week, and change Gladiator back to an end of season percentile reward to make people keep queueing their mains throughout the season.

Or you could insult me and try to find ways to tear me down. I mean, there’s nothing that can be done right? There is absolutely nothing Blizzard can do so that a players time is respected and they can achieve a measly reward like completing their transmog set. Anyone complaining and asking for changes is just mad/bad and should get rekt and nobody should take them or their threads seriously, right? I mean there is just nothing that Blizzard can do!

I’m not asking for prestige titles to be handed out, frankly they should be returned to their end of season percentile award basis, and that includes the “legend” title.

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I feel like it’s already like this. I seen some pretty low skill players riding glad mounts because they queued aug dk or being 2400cr in shuffle since climbing as a dps Is stupid easy if u aren’t bad

They should inflate the ladder even more tho. Maybe another 200 mmr

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pvp systems in this game are absolute garbage cringe, and they do not care in the slightest

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well this is false

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no shot you just said that you cant get 1800 because non stop r1 sitters are gate keeping you

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I’m 2100CR~ as a healer, one of the lowest represented specs above 2400~ (only 10 players not counting alts). Where are you getting 1800 from? This is what I meant when I said this forum is only trolls and sadists whose only interest is to put others down.

The majority of healer games go 3-3 because one DPS is worse than the rest, or one DPS is way better than the rest. In these games, if the other healer is 10~ CR below you, your MMR will go down for going 3-3 in a match you cannot control. This factor, with the wild MMR flux of your DPS teammates, meaning one lobby has literal BLIZZCON CHAMPION player in it and another lobby is 1950 mages who forget to block, your rating is basically luck.

Why are these forums so toxic? Why is your gut instinct to put others down?

edit: The reason I am voicing my opinion is that I was 2400 last season and while it was worse for healers, and still relatively challenging, at least all healer specs could reach 2400 if they were a solid and committed player. This season that is just absolutely not the case, and it is really pushing a lot of people to straight up quit. There is no reason for them to be so stingy on RSS rating the way that they are, I just can’t understand why anyone would want it this way. Top players for my spec have been sitting for weeks with 0 rating change and 0 challenge to their position on the ladder because nobody else can climb vs priests/pallies.

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What should be reserved for the top and what you consider the top is all subjective though. Some people feel that the 2100 enchant is only reserved for the top as they cannot reach that, and others feel that the 1800 elite set is.

At the end of the day, we’re talking about cosmetics. I can’t get the 2400 staff mog on my mage (yet at least), but in my eyes that’s just me needing to improve, and if I don’t get it this season, no big deal (it is a game after all).

Also, just because 2400 is normally easy for you doesn’t mean that it is as easy for others. Just last season disc and hpal were in opposite positions with respect to the difficulty required to hit 2400.

I agree that more inflation would be healthy for the ladder, but again what you consider decent, competent and dedicated is subjective. You might see that as 2400+, I personally see it as 1800+, whereas 2100+ is well above average.

Not sure why you took it this way, but it was not (and is not) my intent to make you feel insulted. I just thought the bit about Blizzard punishing loyal and dedicated players was a bit melodramatic. Blizzard can do lots of things, and they are constantly doing things (in this expansion at least).

I agree that most rewards should be percentile AND spec based (not just the 0.1% title), as this would probably solve the frustration that most of us feel when the rewards tied to the static rating thresholds are constantly being shifted in terms of the relative difficulty to achieve them.

Kind of subjective point here too (I think Elite, Legend, Gladiator, and especially the rank 1 titles are all prestigious). You are in effect asking for prestige titles to be handed out (making 2400+ easier to obtain is asking for the handing out of Elite and Legend titles).

The point though is that you could replace “titles” with “enchant” or “elite set”, and when making one thing easier to obtain, you’re making all things easier to obtain. I’ve encountered many people that are beyond relieved/excited/etc. for breaking 1800 for the elite set.

Again, please don’t take this as some form of tearing you down. I agree that disc needs buffs, and I agree with you that more inflation should be added. I just don’t necessarily agree with the reasoning (e.g., I don’t think that more inflation should be added for the sake of making it easier to obtain a cosmetic item, especially one that you probably wouldn’t even care about if it didn’t match the 1800 elite set).

I would be totally fine with Blizzard making another cosmetic set w/ weapon and/or an even better mount (though they are on point with the glad mounts this season) for players that reach 3k+, and I would not be upset at all that I can’t obtain it/them (or that I could only obtain some pieces of it if they staggered the set pieces between 2400 and 3k+).

I mean, granted they are a very small percentage of the playerbase, I can imagine that rank 1s feel shafted when the glad mount is so accessible that duelist skill level can obtain it due to inflation. I’d like to see more rewards, achievements, etc. across the board to be honest, and that includes higher end rewards (more exclusive rewards) between 2400+ and 3k+.

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I feel you on the trolls bro. As a real player not trolling, I have ranted and raged about this exact issue many times, probably have a collective 6-8 weeks of silences from forums over it. The issue you describe is especially bad this season. Last season I got to 2744cr / Rank 165 BM hunter. This season I got to 2118 / Rank 118 hunter. Had to go up 50 ranks to just hit Duelist. I queued into Partywaffles, I queued into Flarkness, I queued into Mes, Foxyllama… loads of people I have no business queueing against. I got really annoyed when I lost rating to Mes at 2088cr and raged in his stream, but he was chill tbh and mentioned he also doesnt like those lobbies because he can’t really gain much CR if he queues into people hundreds of CR lower due to extremely long queue times. He even gifted me a lifetime sub to his twitch which was HILARIOUS tbh. Anyway ignore the trolls as best you can other real players are out here grinding and I completely agree with what you say - either let the top players get 3500 cr and let duelists move up to 2400… or move the glad mount down to 2100 so more than a few hundred people can get it. Also elite weapon mogs was 2100 rating all of shadowlands why the hell are they 2400 in Dragonflight suddenly?!

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I’ve been in many similar lobbies, including one with Mes on unholy dk (which somehow he went 0-6 in I guess due to it being a bad lobby), and I was really impressed with his attitude. He legit gave off zero rage, made zero excuses, and only thought about what he could have done better. He even said with sincerity that he deserved to go 0-6 (and this was 2100-2200).

His attitude and ability to reflect are top notch. If most of us (myself included) could approach wow arena with his attitude/mindset/etc., we’d all be much better players. Sadly though, a positive attitude and reflecting are not the norm (e.g., the norm is to immediately go to the forums to complain and ask for buffs/nerfs to x, y after losing, since the only reason for losing was clearly because I played perfectly into one or more classes that are broken op).

I’d be okay with this, but at the same time it trivializes the skill required to get to 3500 cr (because while the lower-mid end is happy about obtaining everything, the top of the ladder (aside from r1 title) gets nothing to distinguish themselves from the lower-mid end). Then you might say, well give the 3k+ crowd another reward, maybe a cooler enchant, a cooler elite set, etc., but then the lower-mid end will just start to complain about that next, and cry for even more inflation until they are able to reach every reward via their current skill level on any given spec (versus trying to improve so that they can reach the reward(s) without extra help/handicaps from Blizzard).

The solution is really just to make every reward in pvp spec AND percentile based. I don’t think that it would be that difficult, but it still hasn’t been done for some reason (and make it so that the percentile based rewards aren’t applicable for at least the first 2-4 weeks of the season to give everyone a chance to play/carve out a position on the ladder).