PTR Build 28366: The end of Shaman

You can (not) play Shaman.
Nothing for Shaman, nothing for Warlock, Spriest remains meh.

Oh but!

Buff assassination
Buff arms
Buff demon hunter
Buff windwalker

BUFF ALL MELEE, THIS IS WORLD OF MELEECRAFT!

I'd kick your theeth in.
11/07/2018 06:43 AMPosted by Sieten
You can (not) play Shaman.

Evangelion 3.0 + 1.0 sounding good
you probably don't want to hear this but shaman does have a melee spec.
Why does Warlock need something? They have a top spec that has been finishing in the #1 - #3 spot for Uldir. How about classes where all 3 specs range in the middle and dead last?

I agree with you about the melee stuff though.
If they buffed shamans locks and priests instead, there would be balance?
11/07/2018 06:45 AMPosted by Tekbm
you probably don't want to hear this but shaman does have a melee spec.


And it has 0 defensives, try fighting a warrior, DH, rogue, ww, surv hunter and basically any other melee.
Enh is the worst melee in the game, by a huge margin.

11/07/2018 06:45 AMPosted by Bojanglz
Why does Warlock need something? They have a top spec that has been finishing in the #1 - #3 spot for Uldir. How about classes where all 3 specs range in the middle and dead last?

I agree with you about the melee stuff though.


Warlock explodes in a single warrior stun, though?
They have no survability, no mobility, they simply go BOOM once warrior does charge -> warbreaker -> bladestorm. Still alive? Execute for 30% of your health! SKILLS LEL LEARN2PLAYGITGUD LELELE I'M SO GOOD AT THIS GAEM.
11/07/2018 06:45 AMPosted by Bojanglz
Why does Warlock need something? They have a top spec that has been finishing in the #1 - #3 spot for Uldir. How about classes where all 3 specs range in the middle and dead last?

haha yeah because raiding is the only part of the vidya gaem that matters xd
11/07/2018 06:43 AMPosted by Sieten
You can (not) play Shaman.
Nothing for Shaman, nothing for Warlock, Spriest remains meh.

Oh but!

Buff assassination
Buff arms
Buff demon hunter
Buff windwalker

BUFF ALL MELEE, THIS IS WORLD OF MELEECRAFT!

I'd kick your theeth in.


I think they should nerf shamans every single time you guys make a thread complaining. I have absolutely never seen a class complain as much as you guys and you aren't even that bad.
I agree, would love some communication from Blizzard about the future of Shamans!
11/07/2018 06:45 AMPosted by Broskie
If they buffed shamans locks and priests instead, there would be balance?

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Shamans/Locks/Spriest don't have number issues, they have mechanic and toolkit issues which is a lot more serious that just "low damage".
11/07/2018 06:43 AMPosted by Sieten
THIS IS WORLD OF MELEECRAFT!

love it or leave it-- git'er done
11/07/2018 06:52 AMPosted by Amine
11/07/2018 06:43 AMPosted by Sieten
You can (not) play Shaman.
Nothing for Shaman, nothing for Warlock, Spriest remains meh.

Oh but!

Buff assassination
Buff arms
Buff demon hunter
Buff windwalker

BUFF ALL MELEE, THIS IS WORLD OF MELEECRAFT!

I'd kick your theeth in.


I think they should nerf shamans every single time you guys make a thread complaining. I have absolutely never seen a class complain as much as you guys and you aren't even that bad.


Level 44, I hope that is not your main.
Alright, let's try this.
Name 3 shaman defensives, I'll wait :)
11/07/2018 06:55 AMPosted by Sieten
11/07/2018 06:52 AMPosted by Amine
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I think they should nerf shamans every single time you guys make a thread complaining. I have absolutely never seen a class complain as much as you guys and you aren't even that bad.


Level 44, I hope that is not your main.
Alright, let's try this.
Name 3 shaman defensives, I'll wait :)


I have never played a shaman in PvP but you do have that !@#$ty knockback thing that most of you insist on using in PvE content. Also I watched one of those restro shamans ward off 4 players pretty easily so I am pretty darn sure you have them.
11/07/2018 06:58 AMPosted by Amine
11/07/2018 06:55 AMPosted by Sieten
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Level 44, I hope that is not your main.
Alright, let's try this.
Name 3 shaman defensives, I'll wait :)


I have never played a shaman in PvP but you do have that !@#$ty knockback thing that most of you insist on using in PvE content. Also I watched one of those restro shamans ward off 4 players pretty easily so I am pretty darn sure you have them.


Well, we have ONE defensive called Astral Shift which unlike most defensives it actually only reduces a very little portion of the incoming damage, so low you don't even notice the shaman trying to survive.
Also, that "Knockback" gets constantly bugged and doesn't push anyone 60% of the times you use it. Awesome, right?
Oh, and the push is so little that a warrior can even walk back before you cast a miserable 2k damage lava burst. Then you get Mortal Strike'd for 20% of your health instantly but no matter it's all balanced!
11/07/2018 07:06 AMPosted by Sieten
11/07/2018 06:58 AMPosted by Amine
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I have never played a shaman in PvP but you do have that !@#$ty knockback thing that most of you insist on using in PvE content. Also I watched one of those restro shamans ward off 4 players pretty easily so I am pretty darn sure you have them.


Well, we have ONE defensive called Astral Shift which unlike most defensives it actually only reduces a very little portion of the incoming damage, so low you don't even notice the shaman trying to survive.
Also, that "Knockback" gets constantly bugged and doesn't push anyone 60% of the times you use it. Awesome, right?
Oh, and the push is so little that a warrior can even walk back before you cast a miserable 2k damage lava burst. Then you get Mortal Strike'd for 20% of your health instantly but no matter it's all balanced!


Why do you figure shamans should have more defensives than other classes. Pretty sure my feral only has one damage reduction ability and a knockback ability as well if I select that.
Didnt a shaman win the awc at blizzcon?
11/07/2018 06:43 AMPosted by Sieten
BUFF ALL MELEE, THIS IS WORLD OF MELEECRAFT!

Agreed.

btw, I wonder what happened to the frost mage nerfs.
I don't see them in the patch notes.
Last time they said they'd revert nerfs next PTR, frost mages weren't mentioned.
Only melee were.

So yeah, meleecraft.
11/07/2018 07:29 AMPosted by Viviornitier
11/07/2018 06:43 AMPosted by Sieten
BUFF ALL MELEE, THIS IS WORLD OF MELEECRAFT!


Only melee were.

So yeah, meleecraft.


Every new class that has come out throughout the expansions have been....guess what? Melee. So unless they finally decide to make a ranged class, it will forever be meleecraft.
i ditched my shaman and rolled hunter for the rest of bfa.now im leveling a mag'har hunter for the heritage armor.im not one to play a bad class because of a fantasy.

when classic comes out bye bye bfa and hello 2hd enhancement shaman.
Didn't shaman already die at bfa release :)