PSA - You’re not a SME

Just because you signed up for a Java class, did the introductory Hello World lab, and dropped the class because it’s too hard, you’re not a subject matter expert on anything computer, networking, or operations related.

If it was so easy to fix something, it’d be done already, and we’d all be making 6 figure salaries.

Please stop with the nonsense and maybe instead try to learn or understand how things actually work.

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While that may be true, the fact that they make the same mistakes, and have the same problems, year after year speaks volumes about the actual competency of their programmers, and it’s not very good.

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If said skills were ubiquitous I doubt everyone would be making six figure salaries.

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Or we do work in IT and make 6 figure salaries?

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I don’t know what a sme is but I am glad I don’t have it.

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Uh excuse me, I read a lesson about coding in Python once and got a migraine, I’m pretty sure that makes me a professional. Show some respect, thanks.

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Does it speak volumes? What are we using as the baseline to access thier competency?

What is a comparable product that does not have long running bugs?

It’s another Pillow thread.

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I no longer experience bugs in ark, conan, eso, FF14 unless they are a result of a new expack. Even then they usually differ and they have them patched within a day or two.

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Yes, I am indeed not a simian.

Some people have higher expectations for a billion dollar game conglomerate.

Some people have lower expectations for an indy dev.

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So, what I see from your post is smaller games that use newer engines have less bugs.

Thats probably a solid idea.

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No, I am not Mr. Smee from peter pan.

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that’s too harsh on developers, they’re trying

I am not a chef.

But if I pay a restaurant my good money, and the food I get in return is not good, you can bet my sweet bovine butt I am going to provide feedback to the people that run that restaurant, even if I have no clue as to what went wrong in the kitchen or how to fix it.

/moo :cow:

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Eso isn’t a smaller game. A smaller game isn’t classified by the amount of people whom play it. Moreso by the amount of work that went into it, how many digital assets and hardware it has and requires and it’s content offered in regards to those assets. FF14 and ESO content wise and asset wise are massive compared to wow.

It is true they use newer engines, however, it is a decision on Blizzards end not to upgrade and continue to be limited by the capability of the archaic engine and systems they are so heart set on using. They bring that problem on themselves. I would be perfectly fine if wow went away for a while so they could upgrade everything in order to have the ability to do better things with the game. But, they are all about quantity, and zero about quality these days.

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You make some bold assumptions on the length of their employee’s time; most developers have an average tenure of about 2-3 years. Huge software companies largely operate off tribal knowledge and good incentive plans are around to retain said knowledge; it’s a major industry problem that a wide variety of products exist to help solve.

As far as progress goes; I remember when each launch meant major issues and the last 3 have been incredibly stable with the latest one surprisingly not even requiring me to log out to get the quest or view the required NPC’s.

In short, it’s totally plausible they’ll make the same mistakes over and over again if they don’t actively take measures to ensure the mistake never happens again (which requires cultural changes to the org.)

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I’d be more inclined to agree with your point, if a lot of the issues hadn’t been in the beta, and reported, for months

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Well, if it’s an issue with retention and having new programmers each Expac because they don’t pay well enough or give enough incentive for the older ones to stay. I would also day that’s a them problem, causing them more problems.

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As they are the only “successful” mmo to reach the 16 year milestone. I would say they are setting the bar for quality at this point.

Once another MMO reaches this point, we will have a point of comparison.