The underpin fight at ?? difficulty is overtly not in a good state. I tested it for a few pulls but the issues are for lack of better words obvious. And to preempt the get goods and all that I’m only complaining because these issues are this obvious, but I figure its best to get the word out early. So the damage intake feels like zekvir on the same difficulty which is fine just use healer brann, but the add spawns are outright unfair. We are supposed to kill them with 3 footbombs and the add spawns are spawning on the opposite side of the room, sometimes I get 5 adds instead of 3 AND sometimes the adds spawn in two packs on opposite sides of the room neither of which is in range of the footbombs already placed. Now if the adds weren’t a blatant timer on the fight with their unavoidable passive damage (ignoring their constant forced movement dodgable mechanics) this might not be an issue, but I’ve even had cases where the adds just spawn outside the arena and then just shoot me to death.
Also, hero and cooldowns don’t reset when the boss does.
I think the fight has potential to be a lot of fun, but the adds should spawn more consistently and they should spawn in range of the bombs, I just don’t think having to kick 3 bombs twice to traverse 60 feet to reach the adds on repeat on what is probably a 1 minute or so cycle a good mechanic, especially with the underpin doing the same thing as zekvir ?? where he just rapid fires out all his other mechanics without any regard for overlaps.
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I think (don’t know for sure because I can’t survive that long) that the cronies start the fight spawning in the arena, but over time, as you get more waves of them, an increasing percentage of them spawn in the bleachers. This creates a DPS check because you won’t be able to kill them anymore, and you’ll eventually die from their unavoidable damage.
The real bug, as far as I can tell, is that as you do a bunch of attempts, this progression from “all cronies in the arena” to “all cronies in the bleachers” continues BETWEEN attempts, meaning that after you’ve done 5 attempts or so, all of the cronies just spawn in the bleachers from the get go, and you just can’t kill them. So you have to completely leave the instance and start over.
I could be wrong, cuz like I said, I can’t survive that long to really see what the fight should be like, but I definitely see my first few attempts have all/most of the cronies in the arena, but later attempts have all cronies spawning in the bleachers.
Just so i understand the context better, what item level are we attempting ?? at?
Well I’m like 625, but I’m just trying to figure out the mechanics at this point. I don’t think a kill is in the cards. He melees me for half my HP each hit.
This one feels like it disproportionately favours tanks as long as you can break the shield, it’ll just take forever.
Attempting at 639.
This and Brann’s dialogue is what drives me crazy on this fight.
Fix for adds: If his adds bug out and stay outside after a death they don’t do melee stuff inside atleast BUT resetting the instance fixes this.
Normal ? = done first try.
Mode ?? = 75% but concur with the issues you’re mentioning. There’s sometimes an unfortunate overlap which makes it hard as a DK.
I think it’ll become easier as the season progresses, tho I hope they fix the cooldown thing like the way it works for Zekvir.
Edit: More info - partway through he might say ‘That’ll teach ya for trespassing’ or ‘All kneel before the Underpin’ this means he thinks you’re dead and the adds are perma going to be on the side. This is likely a bug and when you should reset him else it’s just hardmode.
Had my best attempt sadly only got him past 1/2 way.
Gonna stop for now. This is pretty hopefully cause eventually we’ll be 670+ so it’ll be MUCH easier. I can see myself gearing past this.
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I got him to 50% as a tank, so much easier since I don’t have to worry about losing so much health so quickly. But I buggered up my CD’s, Brann hit too hard, and he shielded before I was ready, then it bugged and it’s bugged every new attempt on a fresh instance every time and has been doing it for hours.
So yeh I’m with you, going to wait until I am at least 658 iLVL with all Champion 8/8 or Hero 4/6 gear before trying again, that extra 20 iLVL will make a massive difference.
Maybe by then they will have also fixed it.
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What was the tank spec?
As DPS I don’t think extra gear would help me unless its got the power to literally teleport me around
And warrior is supposed to be one of the more mobile specs
He spawns like 5 cronies first spawn, thats like 6 bombs to kick minimum?
4 bombs, if you hit the middle of em.
But yes I feel you, DK tings
Unless I’m missing something you need 6 bombs usually.
He sometimes spawns them opposite sides of the arena. It wasn’t first spawn though.
This is what spawn 2 looked like for me. First spawn still required around 6.
2 hits done on the left, bomb footballs only ever do 1/3 as far as I can tell.
https://imgur.com/OFKMGKg
IDK how, but I definitely had 1 bomb kill 3 cronies 100%. Maybe it was in the process of exploding or something.
edit: sorry I take that back. It was 2 bombs, and Brann was DPSing them too (I’m a healer), so I guess nevermind.
Tricky part is taking the screenshot right? (And what if it’s the kill!) Cause there’s a billion thing hitting you. The cronies on the left I got a set of 4 and kicking a bomb into the middle of them hit all 4.the second one killed em.
It’s also not super too easy to click the bombs because the boss stands on top of them and body-blocks. Mostly a problem for melee I suppose, not sure
I’ve heard some people mention a way to make the interface understand that you want to interact with the bomb rather than target the boss. Anybody know what this is?
Enable the interact key (F)
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I think he spawns more adds in ??, unless it’s a bug somehow.
I’ve noticed that, but i’m honestly not sure what the intended spawns are, because they just don’t happen in a consistent manner. I’d be fine with more than 3 honestly but 3 on one side 2 on another is weird.
It’s 5, and they can be pretty much anywhere.
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