Are the OP and that comical dude that cant spell frost also reporting horde griefing hc players?… no? Oh really ? So all the horde griefers in westfall using mind control on harvesters to flag hc players is ok but kitting a dragon isn t ?
People are laughing at your hypocrisy in case you did not notice.
Again I ask, exactly how to I know that someone is doing the HC challenge from in-game information? And if they can’t be identified, how can they claim they were specifically griefed?
This also goes for SoI where the buff hasn’t been picked up. And, for people like me who would never click on someone to see the buff, even those who have picked up the buff, but at least that would be identifiable by griefers (and I guess they’re into that).
But again, explain to me how HC players are specifically griefed.
The easiest way to identify them is either they have the Soul of Iron buff, or they are a members of the listed HC guilds.
Also, all known griefers who I reported also streamed their griefing and articulated in detail that they were killing specifically because players had the buff. I mean these aren’t you worlds smartest people.
There a few threads already and even videos - not going to rehash it all again.
So, I’m supposed to look at a player, look at their guild (are they required to belong to a HC guild, or is that a choice?), and then look up the guild somewhere to see if it’s hard core. That’s my job as a player here because I’m playing SoM? I pay my sub just like everyone else does.
I mean, you are also saying it’s my job to look at each and every player to see if they have the SoI buff before I might do anything like pull a mob incorrectly or something (since sometimes a cat jumps on my keyboard – better put the cat away if a HC player is within 40 yards?!).
Again, I’m not a griefer, but eventually even accidental pulls will be called out.
It hasn’t? In the above, there is a player that is claiming that two other players literally made SoI characters just so they could grief only him, kill him off, and even though they will die too it doesn’t matter, their entire existence was to grief him.
You know, there’s a chance that they just suck at the game. But no, couldn’t be that, they tried to kill muh buff!!
There a ton of HC vids where alot of people die to to other players around them. It could be bad pulls, shared agro, dropped agro, etc
This type of deaths are acceptable as its a MMO and other players also exist in the world.
But the griefs warnings that were actioned by Blizzard were those of player exclusively targeting known guilds, joining the hardcore discords, joining the hardcore chanels, advertising their kills vids in global chat, etc.
It wasn’t some accidentally killing. There was alot of planning and effort from these people.
I came here today in berween having fun in game avoiding Terry and other death to check that people still whine and feel they are specials and their feels matter.
Well it is the weekend and they are still posting and ranting instead if having fun in game…figures.
The players being actioned are doing things that are clearly obvious griefing behavior. Kiting Teremus and other high level mobs that do aoe to low level zones that will then kill these lower level players is considered griefing and is not allowed. This type of behavior does not happen by accident and you don’t need to determine who is and isn’t a soul of iron player to grief in this way. Doing this for hours on end day after day doesn’t happen just by chance.
Other forms of griefing are just as apparent and obvious. Stealthing on top of an herb node or NPC corpse while pvp flagged and then unstealthing as a player goes to interact with them is another form of obvious griefing. This doesn’t happen by accident and continuously repeating the same action over and over again further reinforces that the behavior is being done intentionally to get players to inadvertently flag for pvp on a pve server when they otherwise had no intention to.
Using the Gnomish Universal Remote while pvp flagged to MC a mechanical mob while a player of the opposite faction is fighting it in order to flag the mech for pvp and players to inadvertently flag for pvp on a pve server when they otherwise had no intention to is another blatantly obvious sign of griefing.
This isn’t just “oh i was running away from some mobs and they happened to aggro to someone else by accident”, it isn’t “I was pvp flagged running around somewhere and someone purposefully/accidentally attacked me”, etc.
It is clear and obvious what the intentions of these kinds of actions and behaviors are. Now yes, I know you can’t necessarily prove intention, but even if your intention is not specifically to grief, performing these actions is still considered griefing and is not allowed. Blizzard agrees and that is why they are taking action against those who do these kinds of activity with warnings and bans and are also making changes to prevent it from happening in the first place. It really isn’t a hard concept to grasp…