PSA: New TW Griefing Method with Requeing

So I got on to do some TW today and apparently there’s some new griefing method.

When you finish a dungeon, a lot of times, people will re-queue for another TW dungeon.

Only, instead of Re-queing TW they will re-queue something else. In this case, it was Neltharion.

Read the Popup before you click yes!

Otherwise you might end up stuck in a dungeon you don’t want and someone is going to have to eat a debuff before everybody else can safely leave the group.

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I’ve more than once accidently queued for a regular dungeon instead of a TW dungeon. the system doesn’t auto-select TW when you open LFD. so I can see people doing this as a mistake.

but yes,

is solid advice all around.

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Neltharion seems like an odd “oops I accidentally clicked Normal instead of TW” though, which made me thought it was deliberate.

Also I just tested it on my character and it defaulted to TW as that’s what I Q’d for last.

EDIT: Great… even though I don’t have a debuff, it still says I’m on dungeon cooldown… I fricken hate people anymore. At the very least, it could TELL me what the fricken cooldown even is so I know whether or not I should bother waiting and/or how long to wait for.

I guarantee this was an accident and not someone trying to grief you

I have myself queued normal instead of TW at least 5 times, and wanted to do that 0 times

It would be nice if the queue defaulted to TW if your last one was a TW

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It does for me.

Are you using some kind of addon that mucks with that maybe?

Maybe it normally does and sometimes randomly but infrequently doesn’t which is why people don’t read and click the normal dungeon queue instead

I’ve never ever manually clicked normal dungeon when TW was available (or wanted to do one, TW has better gear, better xp, is faster as well) so even if it normally does default to TW it didn’t for me at least 5 times

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This isn’t griefing. I’ve found myself accidentally queuing into a regular dungeon on more than one occasion because it sometimes doesn’t remember that I had selected TW while doing the weekly.

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It happens rarely to me, but the person would admit it was an accident, I’ll just swap to an alt and re-que. I understand, when I’m tired from work I accidently que for the wrong thing and don’t read. If it happens frequently then it’s trolling.

Yes, reading does help, I guess I should take that advice. :sweat_smile:

Do you mean Neltharus, Neltharion is from a raid.

And if it was Neltharus, which is a Dragonflight dungeon then yes, that would seem to be either a bug (hardly a surprise in this game) or deliberate.

I think it’s important not to ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by incompetence. I ran timewalking on 3 characters yesterday and after finishing one I threw us in queue… for dragonflight. I can assure you that it was not intentional. I don’t think it’s griefing as much as it’s a mistake.

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It only does this if you haven’t reloaded the UI since you hit join queue. I’ve accidentally shown up to a normal TWW dungeon many an occasion to attest to that fact.

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I don’t think it’s griefing. If you DC mid run and reconnect it defaults to 'Random Heroic" (Or dungeon if you’re not 80). It does that sometimes when other criteria is met.

I had someone queue us for something after a TW on accident on a number of occasions, and I know I did it myself prior. It’s an easy thing to do, unfortunately!

I really don’t think anyone does it maliciously, unless they, too, are griefing themselves and eating a 30 minute penalty to bail after.

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Yep, this.

It’s also totally possible it’s something like this:

Party of 2 queues for TW. Party Member A is the leader - the one who queued. Queue pops. TW is completed.

Party Member B goes to requeue at the end of the dungeon thinking it would already be set to TW since they just did a TW. It was not.

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Timewalking goes all the way down to level 10 now. Dragonflight is the default leveling path.

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Often this is just a simple mistake my guy.

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This happened to me a couple days ago. I re-queue’d as TW with all 5 party members, one either declined or left the group before hitting yes, and when I opened dungeon finder to queue again it went to Normal or Heroic instead of TW.

I didn’t even know it could do that and just assumed it was still on TW, so when it popped we all ended up in Floodgate.

I pretty much guarantee people aren’t doing this to deliberately troll, it’s the UI being weird and people not paying attention to it.

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As stated, if you reload your UI at any point in the dungeon the LFG queue will reset itself to Heroic dungeons. So probably an honest mistake not trolling.

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I have definitely queued for the wrong dungeons before. Lol it just automatically is on normal dungeon sometimes I dunno.

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It’s not griefing. It’s usually a mistake. Sometimes the LFD window resets and people hit the wrong one, because they assumed it was still on the Timewalking option and it’s not. And if you reload your UI, it resets the LFD window, as well.

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If you get DC’d or weren’t the one queuing it defaults to whatever expansion you are actively playing/in so like in this example, the person must’ve been in Legion.

It’s HIGHLY unlikely to be malicious/griefing and more not paying attention to what queue it defaulted to…but yes paying attention to what the reward is, at the minimum, solves all the issues (even when queuing alone and expecting a bribe bag and not getting it).

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