It’s no longer fun to play. Constantly casting WoG on myself, dead in the blink of an eye before mobs can even be rounded up, it’s a paper tank with zero talent flexibility especially in PUGs.
All the guides say mastery is meta, feels like stacking versatility is the best choice at this point. Used to be a fun class to play for me, not anymore. Probably the worst tanks in the game right now and are only playable going at a snail’s pace.
Well, this is certainly one way to prove you don’t know how to play the spec. Grats I guess.
Remember, it’s always the other players or blizzard’s fault. You’re doing everything well and do not need to improve.
It’s unforgiving, more so than other tanks maybe, but by no means weak.
i mean post log and maybe we can help? im gonna assume this is the character your having trouble in right?
i can probably fish up a log and see whjats going on
edit: warcraftlogs com/reports/w3nWTa8X6kANbRm4?fight=94&type=casts&source=664 your underusing alot of your defensive buffs :pepew:
i really dont understand why people dont log things cause this is your only log on a key higher than 10
I’ve really gotta start logging mine, I want to get better and do MOAR DAMAGE!!
loggin is great tool to see what went wrong 
People commenting get gud are deluded. Prot pally is objectively the worst tank right now. It’s tankiness is the worst it’s been in many many years.
And that’s obviously why it was the meta tank last season, because it’s tankyness was the worst…
Like, did you even bother making a modicum of research before posting such stupidity?
It plays exactly the same it did in S1 albeit a nerf to its damage.
I’ll say that his though, for what it’s worth, I don’t like how it plays either and I don’t like how unforgiving it is.
I don’t like how it’s been since the AS change.
I have not seen what they did to prot going into 11.2
What was nerfed?
The new templar tier set looks like its good specially since prot always stacks crit haste?
The reason prot pally was meta partway through S1 is because LS was reworked adding tempered in battle. It was literally the only thing holding prot pally up tankiness wise. Before that rework prot pally was a rubbish tank. Since tempered was nerfed to proc 1x per armament this season, making it more likely to kill you then save you, prot pally has gone right back to the dumpster it was. You can pretend this isn’t the case all you like but the numbers don’t lie.
Tankiness this xpack was never properly reworked. They created tempered in battle for LS last season as a band-aid. Now they nerfed it to be mostly detrimental for tanking without addressing the underlying tankiness issues.
I’m not saying prot pally isn’t fun - templar is super fun with the tier. Just that the tankiness is awful compared to all other tanks.
I see. They could always up the baseline tankiness outside of cds. I wonder how its doing on the ptr
You don’t understand what words like “objectively” or “numbers” mean, no matter how confidently you use them.
Strong arguments you’ve made. Wow! Impressive!
Prot is only 1 to 2 keys of the meta tank, it’s hardly bad. This is even more relevant when you consider the vast majority of people playing at that level mostly just play whatever is the current meta tank.
It’s ironic when you say things like
when you’re either (a) not competent enough to understand the numbers, or (b) lying.
Im not sure honestly if this discussion is aimed at live, ptr, or a mix, but the recent Stress Test vid from Yoda showed only Prot and Brew failing the test pull in a M 15 (and failing kind of miserably)
I do think need Prot needs some looking at for next season
You’d have to say something worth arguing with, not just random unjustified, unsupported, or unconsidered hot takes. Until then, maybe check a dictionary.
Are you ok mate?
Pro Pally needs help badly.
