Prot paladin wog mana cost

[Samsara-aggramar]

Can we have free mana wog when healing ourselves? Its silly, were the worst tank rn, and our healing is causing us to need to drink between packs. Thats unnaceptable. If youre a prot pala and youre not going Oom basically you not doing 10+. I understand that we need a limit on how much we can heal others, but to go oom only healing ourselves is too punishing.

[Cashic-laughing-skull]

We are paying for the sins of the no healer keys an expansion ago.

[Luvpudding-illidan]

Now people running no healer keys again with druid tank lmao. Let’s wait for a mana cost on druid.

[Socially-frostwolf]

Dude I go oom so hard.

[Greyweather-benediction]

Its already been announced for the big patch along with the ret rework

[Grifrak-illidan]

How’s this being addressed? Rereading the 11.0.5 notes and I’m not seeing anything that addresses mana.

[Milesobrien-frostmourne]

@Milesobrien-frostmourne

I was ooming as LS until I stopped trying to game the shining light procs. It’s just not worth it in the end. Minimal dps/shield increase at the cost of being oom. I now just play like I used to - wog at low HP only. Feels a lot better rotationally and I don’t oom. As Templar wog during shake the heavens is pew pew though…

Pasted from my other reply. Unfortunately the best way to play right now is to pretend the shining light proc talents aren’t there and only wog low HP.

[Grifrak-illidan]

We shouldn’t be punished for utilizing procs/talents. It’s outrageous that we can oom from casting what is FIRST a holy power spender.

Spamming flash of light, sure ya go oom, but WoG?!? Just shouldn’t be the norm. Either change the mana situation or rework the lightsmith talent giving free HP WoGs.

[Daiza-gilneas]

The whole point of Holy Power generation/spending was you spent mana to generate the HP then spent it on a big free finisher.

But they killed that now our abilities costing both HP (so they aren’t readily available) and mana (usually excessive amounts) is just ourselves in the foot for playing the spec as it was designed. I think ret is the only spec where the spenders don’t cost mana as well (don’t quote me I’m too lazy to check).

[Milesobrien-frostmourne]

Yeah I think wog should just always cost 0 mana if cast on self.

[Waldir-silver-hand]

Honestly a 30-40% cost reduction on self-targeted WoG would make more sense. It would put us in the range of being mana neutral for self-sustain like blood or guardian without making the mana bar a meaningless resource.

[Loveleigh-moon-guard]

@Daiza-gilneas

I think ret is the only spec where the spenders don’t cost mana as well (don’t quote me I’m too lazy to check).

WoG still costs mana but yeah I only worry about mana when things go sideways and I’m in a position where I have to do a lot of off-healing.

[Benmarch-zuljin]

@Greyweather-benediction

ret rework

There’s no Ret rework.

Where do people get that out of…

They are reworking the PALADIN CLASS tree, as in ALL 3 SPEC shared talents.