Prot paladin ST dps seems incredibly low compared to warriors or DKs. Which is weird, considering Prot paladin in legion felt like it could compete dps wise.
Also in some situations it is feeling a bit squishy compared to DKs. Maybe SOTR could mitigate spell damage by a reasonable percent when its active?
There doesn’t seem to be any evidence to support this statement.
That would be totally broken. The only boss Paladins have any kind of trouble with is G’huun, and that’s only because his melee swings are 50/50 physical/magic.
Check M+ logs of warriors vs. paladins for dps. Prot warriors are doing significantly more sustained AOE.
If you run Seraphim, Prot is putting out great single target and cleave DPS. We fall off hard on mass AOE because Avenger’s Shield (unlike Thrash, Thunderclap etc.) has a target cap.
Example; compare Taloc with Zek’vos
(Grr, can’t link; just search warcraftlogs; Pallies go from 2nd place on Taloc to 5th place on Zek’vos)
Prot Warriors crush everyone on burst AOE because Avatar + Unstoppable Force is obscene (it’s stronger than most DPS specs). It’s not that big a deal for casual M+ because it’s safer to pull conservatively, but it’s more impactful for the high level pushers who need to do big risky pulls to make the timer.
Pallies are already in a pretty decent spot for magic mitigation; Consecration + Holy Shield (talented) are better than most tanks.
^This.
Prot Paladins are decent, but not top tier. I hope Blizzard don’t mess around with us. They’ll likely break something.
The reason prot pally’s are 5th on zekvos is because their cleave DPS is lower compared to other tanks. Prot pally’s are known for strong AOE damage but other tanks are much higher in AOE. Consecration needs a damage buff, and maybe a slight increase to their ST melee attacks, easy fix. And that’s probably all they need to compete.
I do like the idea of SoTR giving a 10% damage reduction to spell based abilities in PVE. But that could become to strong in PVP. Buff consecration and I think pally’s could be fine.
On adds you actually tank, Paladin will have higher damage because of Grand Crusader. Different tanks have different pluses and minuses.
On pure Single Target bosses which is what most of next tier is, Paladin is higher than Warrior.
This isn’t really needed.
You beat me.