What should I level and main 60-70? Prot or holy? Currently holy atm and killing stuff questing faster than I was Ret so figured I’d stay holy…Dungeon groups are basically non existent in old nilla content.
Should I stay holy?
At 49? I think there’s a reckoning build for prot but it involves some clunky /sit macros and turning your back to mobs. If holy’s faster than ret I’d stay that for leveling until 60, then go prot/holy (depending on what role you want) and dungeon grind your way to 70.
People do want tanks a lot more often though.
I’m 53 atm but armoury is slow
Go prot people need tanks like they need crack
obviously prot. people need tanks. nobody has much faith in a paladin main healer.
Huh? Aren’t pallys one of the top healers in TBC?
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Don’t buy into the /sit Reckoning gimmick.
A) It didn’t even work most of the time in Classic.
B) Reckoning doesn’t proc off receiving a crit in TBC. It’s a flat % chance whenever you’re hit.
OP: If you’re not partial to tanking or healing over one another, then Prot is the better choicce. There are more classes that can heal than there are that can tank, there’s a tank epidemic going on right now, and Holy Paladin is the absolute worst quester in the entire game. If you were killing faster as Holy, I’d wager that was pre-50 without Crusader Strike, or you just weren’t equipped properly, etc.
Edit: Just want to clarify though, I wouldn’t respec to Ret for 50-60. I probably wouldn’t respec to Prot until 60 either, if you’re going at a solid pace right now.
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not really. shamans are way better healers. paladins have no good way to heal more than 1 target
Tanks are very in-demand for dungeons, but not so for raids. Every time we’ve had to pug extra people, it’s been for healers
true. that’s why it’s ideal to be prot from 60-70. at 70 you can rethink things.
If you think about 5 healing specs in game (restosham, restodruid, hpally, holypriest, disco priest) then pally is probably 4th in that list of 5.
Doesn’t mean they are bad. It’s just a very short list.
they are the top 4 healer class
out of 4 healers classes
If you play holy people will throw themselves at you, I have seen one holy pally since TBC launch.
One.
Everyone is to cracked up on ret and prot to even consider playing holy.
By “no good way” I think you mean “no way whatsoever.”
But I’ve had some really good Holy Pallies. I’ve only had a few, but every one of them was good, and one of the cleanest dungeons I’ve done at 70 was with a Pally healing.
I think Hpal is fine in dungeons, but they do have to work harder for it. Even the single target limitation isn’t so much a “Pally’s weak” issue IMO as the other healers are so brainlet mode that it makes Paladin appear lacking.
but why holy tho?
you are at the bottom of the healer ladder on pve AND pvp
Prot with reckoning is great for leveling. At 70 you may want to drop reckoning if you’re worried about parry haste deaths.
Tanking 5 mans is fun.
Soloing quests not so much, but tanking is much more fun anyway.
And easy to get a group for if you’re not in a hand holding guild.
I’ve gone Prot at 54 just to get the feels…feels good when you get reckoning…my gear is mainly greens with strength n stamina which may be why I go oom after one mob.
What would my stats be for prot? Strength n spell power? Cloth intel gear is a nono I take it?
Stamina and spell power. Strength doesn’t give a lot of benefit, as the block value gain is not as good as just gearing straight block value, and the AP doesn’t do anything for you as the vast majority of your damage and threat is Holy-based, so spell power is king them. Stamina is a lot better than it was before, as increasing your health pool - and Effective Health through avoidance and more raw stam - is the best way to make sure you stay alive.
You don’t want cloth, no. You want plate for the armour, as most of the damage you take can be mitigated by blocking (holy shield) and the raw physical damage reduction of armour. The gearing is kind of rough, there’s not a lot of spell power plate in vanilla, but you can find a spell power weapon which will be the bulk of your spell power gains outside of some rings/cloak/amulet/trinkets.
There’s some decent spell power weapons you can take early in TBC at least.
Go protection, tank dungeons, profit.