looking at the patch notes it’s definitely an increase to single target. Which is a step in the right direction.
Damage is not the issue, it was never the issue.
You can increase our self healing tenfold, you can decrease periodic damage intake. None of that is going to matter until you do a baseline armor buff.
Damage is not the issue. Periodic damage is not the issue. It is base armor.
In higher keys, it’s not as if it takes three seconds to kill you, you instantaneously die without a cooldown.
I know April Fools’ Day just passed, but this tuning is starting to get comical.
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You haven’t timed higher keys, skill issue.
Prot is in a good place i honestly don’t understand yall crying. It does need some improvements in definitely miss the reward system of reduced cds based on your rotation.
The charges of guardian of the ancients actually feels bad. I prefer the old system.
Stop wasting effort trying to tell us how to feel, and go do something else, we are talking to Blizz, not some random guy with an opinion.
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saying that damage isnt the issue kinda highlights how little you know about the issues prot has
prot is probably one of the lower end on the tank dps scale
Bro just say you have a skill issue and are bad.
I was so excited reading the blue post about how they noticed prot struggling to stay alive in high keys. My excitement drained as a read over the many improvements to our DPS and the nearly unnoticeable changes to the survival of the spec. I’m pushing 14/15 right now and it truly feels like the ceiling of the spec. I need an exceptional healer to contend. I’m a 3130 IO as prot and there are only about 70 prots who are above 3200. It’s frustrating. Culture in high keys are already declining and only taking brewmasters.
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doesnt seem like you have either, for real, im having to use CDs pretty much as they are ready.
have to ensure that every new pull is a minute apart, and def feels tricky to ensure you get enough mobs in that pull to make the timing work/not have everyone complain
pulling fresh mobs when defensives are on CD just feels like a recipe to get pancaked
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I timed a 12 my first week thr 2nd time in the dungeon, and several 11s that were my first time walking into the dungeon you can check my raider io to confirm this, I knew zero mechanics in over half these dungeons and had no problem in mostly champion gear. Everything you said about timing pulls a minute apart is skill issue, you should be pulling big enough that every pull is easily a minute apart and also you have 3 cds for defensive bro, you have ardent, gota, divine shield then you also have improved lay on hands if you really suck for extra armor, slow from consecrate while back pedaling we have the best interrupt In the game with shield and punishment then also have a stun and an aoe blind that can interrupt or buy you 5 seconds for another defensive. This is complete a skill issue, I’ll be pushing a lot higher this week since this is my short week at work I only had 2 days off this week
im timing fine as well, and 12 was my first one wih windrunner - mobs hit hard af, and its clear that some specs like brewmasters are way overpowered in comparison
not saying it isnt possible, and people arent doing it, but theres a big gap with some specs and its very obvious and it affects how people want to play/play with you
for instance, i find mistweaver healers to be amazing, and seek them out hard
Yeah so your complaint makes no sense, timing 10+ in champion gear has never been this easy and inside our cd windows we are as tanky if not tankier than brews
we are not as tanky as brews on the reg, simple fact, CDs is a different story, point is if your CDs are down, you die pretty easy (especially if DPS isnt good enough and they cant take down mobs as your defense depleted)
vs brewmaster can survive bad dps and sustained dmg
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Yeah brew is op, instead of seeing it as brew is op all the time you’re complaining our class sucks. Brew has been mediocre for so long and is finally in the op category. Pally is crazy strong right now and I said that, we are just as strong in our cd windows which we have multiple defensives and a 1 min cd loop that makes us unkillable for 20 seconds. 3min cd with two charges a 4 min cd on an immune. Then couple that with with have the best group utility in the entire game, properly timed tempered in battles with blessing of sacrifice can carry terrible healers which I’ve done already
not saying we suck, i main the class and enjoy it, but it makes it harder to find good groups. its also not a fun experience for one class to be so much more pwerful. its purely a balancing argument
I’ve had no problem finding groups for keys and also have no problem getting people to join my keys so I’m not sure what you mean by that if anything the groups are formed so fast I have to be sure I’m actually ready to do the content
I have some pink parses on logs, the damage is there if you take avenging wrath, but it lowers survivability.
This is so true, my only real complaint is mana issues from trying to help healers. I go oom more than some of the healers I play with.
maybe im just reading into it too much, assuming im decline because im a prot pally and not because they just got another tank lol
def find it hard to get any invites above +12 so far
just did a pit of saron 12+ failed the timer, but that was because i was second on the DPS
So who knows, could just be bad luck with DPS sometimes, and they just cant burn stuff down
Im having no trouble in 13s finding a group. I pushed my key to resilient 12 and now working on 13. Just run your own groups.