(can’t reply to my old thread so I have to make a new one)
Prot damage feels almost “too low” to bother playing the class if not for people depend on us. If we had a better way to generate holy power or generated holy power faster then it would feel much better but as of now I’m extremely dependent on waiting for SoR which was a problem EVERY PROT SCREAMED ABOUT IN TTW we hated being tethered to SoR and yet it’s our only offensive holy power. That’s a pretty big FAIL imo.
edit: Instead of buffing holy power generation lets go at it from the other angle. Make SoR only cost 2 holy power and we’re back in business. That would feel much much better.
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Play a damage spec for damage
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Weak suggestion and borederline trolling ^
The problem with prot won’t get fixed by abandoning it for a dps spec. Prot won’t feel any better to play or more engaging. The problem is with Prot’s dps. It doesn’t feel good. I see several others with the same opinion. Here’s a thread about it. You’re welcome.
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Doesn’t solve it.
It’s an imbalance between CD/non CD.
We’re stupidly strong with CD’s, the AoE burst is completely busted.
The only other spec I saw with more AoE burst yo date is Ele shaman.
They need to shift some of the CD’s power into the base kit.
I genuinely don’t know how though.
The CD’s aren’t doing anything they weren’t doing before.
The only thing that really changed is the Apex.
It probably needs to be untied from AW with the 100% chance to trigger.
In fact, I don’t know that, the way it is, there’s any way to shift things around that doesn’t involve redesigning this APEX completely.
It should have given AS it’s HP generation back with some bonus effect.
This is over the top in wings and lackluster outside of them.
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AoE burst is all we’ve got going for us. a 2 cost SoR would lean into that playstyle while keeping the trolls happy our single target damage is still in the dirt.
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It only marginally increase single target whilst making our burst AoE more egregious.
This AoE burst is not a boon, no tank should have that kind of damage and then fall that hard.
Both the AoE burst and the single target damage/damage outside of wings are problems on different ends of the spectrum.
You need to take a birds eye view perspective and forget the spec you’re playing.
This is not normal.
The boring solution is to halve the power of wings and boost baseline abilities accordingly.
I don’t want my wings like that personally but without reworking the APEX that’s what might happen.
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Personally, if not a bump in base damage (outside of CDs) or adding another attack type, don’t change a thing.
Manage pulls accordingly and time your 1 minute DT & AW. Which becomes more like 35 seconds after proc. Use your defensives when pulling larger packs outside of CDs. Prot is fine IMHO. I’d just be greedy asking for more.
Easiest way is to remove crit wings, they cant buff our aoe/st output cause higher ends will find ways to script crit wings as playable and prot dmg would be out of control but without crit wings i feel like dmg could be properly increased imo
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I mean yeah, like I said, easiest way is to mangle the CD.
The thing is, that’s not historically a problem, it’s just the amp.
The actual damage comes from specific talents and the APEX is the only thing that really got added.
It feels wrong to put down an iconic CD instead of addressing the problem the Apex brought, new talents that most don’t overly care about since it’s brand new.
i personally dont see removing crit wings taking away power from wings, sentinal is very very good now with the new talent for half cd but atm prot dmg is very good if you can get away with crit wings, but mid/low if you cant especially ST so to me the quickest and easiest solution is just get rid of crit wings