Probably time to roll back the class changes, Rets and ferals way too high on expected DPS

Changes will get rolled back.

In Cata classic.

Roll back all changes, the developer are just destroying WLK.

Nah the devs are making the game to boost the classes they play

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Clearly, the devs are playing feral and ret.

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What makes me angry is this isnt retail. They are trying to re write the past and it’s perverting what the most anticipated patch of the most anticipated expansion was.

The only balance change they are making this patch is trap launcher, since the feral nerf is reverted.

The devs are completely ruining this game. just roll back all the stupid changes that they have done in the past year.

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Based.

I don’t mind 5 mans being harder but even then the free gear is insane. They are giving deaths choice away for free. Literally insane.

The only way that would be fair is if it was the equivalent to a +20 key.

And even then, I’d rather see non pivotal bis items on that list of gear.

Normal DV is weaker then 10m heroic fanged skull for a lot of people. probably giving it so they can have greatness not messing up everyones ilvl for how RDF has ilvl requirements.

No, not even close. If they did the initial change for bearweaving would of been different instead they saw an idea that a feral had on a video. They had it implimented into the game without realising how strong it was. Ferals again step forward and said make it a glyph. Now requiring a glyph slot it was a 140 dps nerf. Then they tried Naturalist then realising what it does to pvp and bears they reverted it.

This is evidence that they aren’t maining feral cats. I know Zirene does have all the classes as tanks, as far as I knew he never played cat.

Mained feral since the start of classic. Ferals have had to do some degen things to still be middle of the pack dps. Farming pummelers, along with melee consumes, and caster comsumes. Using a lvl 40 helm just to parse well while all the yellow/brown boys got the loot that we wanted. Continuing into TBC most yellows/brown rerolled, but at the end of the tbc in SW they were top of meters damage on some fights. Ferals if they weren’t forced to tank were once again sporting a lvl 40 helm and powershifting more degen things. Enter WoTLK claiming feral is S-Tier due to pserver interactions
fell flat and to just be middle of the pack dps again bearweaving was the meta. While the buff did the intended change that blizzard wanted i.e. stop ferals from bearweaving it did increase our dps more than they intended it to. Still not top of the meters in p2 or p3. Now a sim that is simming patchwerk fights has us as #1, whereas, p3 bis had feral out simming rogues and rogues check WoL are beating ferals. They want to nerf us based on a patchwerk sim
it’s a lil much to jump to conclusions. Even so, I’d say let feral have their time in the sun we sure have earned it.

The statements that devs play x class is always said when things don’t go other classes way when they are wanting x class nerfed. On the other hand, when x class does get nerf the players of x class say the devs all play these other classes that are top of meters and buffed. So either side saying it is dumb in general and is a reflection of ppl whining.

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So, the best way to prevent this is:
Don’t make any changes to the original 3.35.
Roll back all stupid changes in the past year.

Naw I prefer their attempts to bring up roles that are performing below the floor.

They struck gold with the ret change that brought them in line with everyone and not making them the best at the same time.

Even in ICC ret won’t even become top 3 melee until full bis (Even requiring a legendary weapon), and by then there are no more bosses to prog on unless you want to grasp at straws and count Ruby Sanctum.

I mean
what is deemed as stupid. Some ppl like things while others dislike. I’d say just let it ride or just revert everything.

Reverted resets of cds after boss dies
infernos and all other pets. Bring back munching for war/mages. Just go back to full reset then pure scorched earth. Either way all I see is when a change happens a group of ppl don’t like #nochanges
but wait you fix munching yes I’ll have some of that. Oh reset fire Ele and Inferno yes plz
fix bearweaving 
 oh hell no #nochanges oh ret gets glyph #nochanges. Just leave it alone
see how icc goes and we can learn from there. Fairly simple
just because 1 class that will be running around innervating and bres’n while all pure dps classes will be staying on the boss is out simming others will not compare to live. Only way that works is ppl don’t die and no innervates are needed
add it’s a paterwerk fight. Feral is trash at swapping and long cleave fights. Every class has their strengths and weaknesses.

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Feral can rez in battle, feral can innervates。
If feral can outdps fury, rogue, DK, this is 100% out of balance.
Why not take more feral instead of rogues, and fury?

They already have 239 trinks for that you dunce

because those other classes do other things that feral can’t? why do you think the raid isn’t 19 unholy dks right now? because other classes do more useful things than adding another unholy, this is how utility works

Raids are 6-10 dks now. the only non dk slots are their for utility and or buffs.

No one is stacking feral right now. Also like was said that’s full BiS ICC
so are you afraid ppl will stack feral for world’s first race for Ruby Sanctum?

As a melee class ( not feral), we cannot find a raid position.
because feral is too OP. ICC raid group are stacking ferals for H ICC.
Any solutions to that?

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But they’re not PTR shows still stacking DK and warlock.