Pretty sure the Horde are just fundamentally evil at this point

I’ve just been going through BFA looking at what the horde says and does (on both sides a good bit) and I am pretty sure they have just gone full on fundamentally evil. Sylvanas herself aside, in the zone assaults there are WQs where the horde just straight up abducts people and you have to go on airships to free them, presumable they were abducted to be turned into undead. When fighting Orcs their big thing is killing people “for honor”, which in some respects can just be viewed as wanton death. The Forsaken’s big thing is “death, death, and more death”. And the horde storylines in BFA seem to have a fixation with death.

I just get the oddest feeling the horde’s big thing from a story point is “kill everyone and deathify everything”. Seems kinda twisted.

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No, the horde is not Fundamentally evil.

Horrible story telling, and writing on the blizzard team has simply landed us with another bloody psychopath in power, and the players simply just don’t get the input we want.

The horde of today, is not the same horde we’ve historically been since wow’s inception, and it’s ridiculously grating on the nerves.

You can call the witch-queen, and any of her sheep followers evil if you want, but if the horde was fundamentally evil, you wouldn’t be seeing a civil war 2.0 about to come out swinging.

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How many more genocides do you think they need to do before we treat them as evil?

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Hopefully a lot more are on the way.

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You aren’t allowed to use words with “fun” in them any more.

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Clearly you didn’t read everything I wrote, so you can toss off.

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If Horde is fundamentally evil, why is none of that shown with the Horde player’s storyline? You know, the actual Champion of the Horde? Death might be something Sylvanas and her Forsaken focuses on, but you conveniently ignored the Tauren, the Nightborne, the Trolls, etc etc.

You’re a void elf anyway, you don’t have room to talk. If we’re talking about assaults, your race literally corrupts children of loa using the Void. Loa, as in Wild Gods. That’s the equivalent of corrupting dryads and keepers of the grove, who are the children of Cenarius.

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Well I know I myself am fundamentally evil, so if this is true I’m happy about it!

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Officially Blizzard claims both factions are morally gray. But these day they sure do seem to like painting it as good vs. evil, despite that statement.

Meanwhile, seems to me from my own observations, most players readily believe Alliance = “The good guys” and Horde = “The bad guys” and choose faction, accordingly.

Horde has been committing atrocities since cataclysm.
That was 10 years ago.

Lol what are you on about? The Horde is evil or at the very least psychopaths. That’s why I love my horde alts. Got to balance evil with the good.

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Evil will always triumph because good is dumb.

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Yeah, no.

I don’t think you know what a genocide actually is.

Your just throwing that word around now.

Edit: Also funny enough , Cata’s when we started having racist in chief as war chief, so I dunno, maybe two and two makes four.

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No I think I got it.

the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation.

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Then the alliance commits genocide on a daily basis. I don’t see you complaining about it then.

or does it just not count when alliance do it?

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Lol if you have so little respect for the lore why are you arguing it?

And yeah not gonna take your whataboutism bait.

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So this is something i have been railing on for years now, in fact ever since mop it has been a problem. Blizzard cant pick a hole it wants with the horde. They constantly flip flop between noble savages, and objectively evil. Blizzard just need to make up their mind with the faction already, personally i dont care which one they pick, but then need to just pick a hole and stick with it.

Im curious as to which event you are referring to that is not camp taurajo

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I dunno, I like the thought of a playable faction that is just straight up evil and would like to see the Horde go down more of an evil path.

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Sorry, simply can’t be bothered to put effort in trying to argue with someone as hypocritical as you.

If your specifically mentioning the mana bomb, that was an unprovoked attack, not a genocide, you clearly don’t understand what the term means, and your just flippantly using it.

Does that also mean your little daughter of the sea is a genocidal monster when she tried to wipe out parts of dalaran?

That’s how it always with with the alliance, horde does it, it’s bad, and they have to deal with that badness forever, even if it was done be a despot idiot leader who did stuff without caution to anyone (In case you forgot, the bombing of theramore scenario actually has the horde members almost caught in the blast as well, clearly they knew it was happening)

However, alliance people go and kill lots of people, they just call it “part of war” and brush it off, they didn’t do nothing wrong.

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Again what example are you talking about? thats other then camp taurajo

You also, clearly don’t read entire posts, Maybe the whole Jaina thing comes to mind? Or do you not count that one?

The alliance have also been wiping out troll tribes for years, all under the guise of war sure, but it’s been done.

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