At the expense of others. It is a video game. If you can’t play the part of a victim in a fantasy world that is going through heck cause of a person. And you take it personal like many of you seem to do. That is a problem.
The fact that you can opt out of a dooms day event is the most anti MMORPG I have ever seen. By catering to people who want “choice”.
I wouldn’t even call it wanting “choice”. It’s about people not wanting PVP to happen where PvP should be happening. If they don’t want a zombie invasion while out of Warmode, then I agree it shouldn’t happen, but what should happen is that it should be happening in Warmode. Crybaby snowflake is saying it shouldn’t even be happening in areas where it wouldn’t even affect them.
But no, they want to have their cake and eat it, too. At the expense of those who want to have the option to fight each other in areas where we can fight each other.
He’s upset about no longer being able to grief people as a ghoul. Strangely I’m not.
I’m more upset that so many people should not be playing a mmo, but for some reason do.
You should have to adjust to the world itself and the events going on in it. Not be able to be “safe”. This is why wow has become a second rate MMORPG. Don’t play by the rules of the world, but here lets give the players all the power. It is nuts, it is bad game design.
As I already pointed out, the idea of an opt-out was floated on the forums months ago.
The griefers screamed and yelled and stomped their feet about NO OPT-OUT IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT THEN DON’T PLAY FOR TWO WEEKS.
Then after the event started getting toned down on the PTR, suddenly they were OK with the idea of an opt-out, instead.
Like you’re doing here.
Huh.
Because they want a choice in how they play?
Good lord this fit you are throwing because you couldn’t ruin the day of a few players you don’t even like or respect has you in a real huff.
Wait till the event, throw on warmode and have a blast.
There are players that play in ways I do not enjoy, I don’t play with them and have fun with those that I resonate with.
Why not give that a try instead of expecting all players to conform to your entitlement?
It’s not griefing. I see here on GD that there are plenty of players who don’t know that griefing would result in actionable offense. Or even know what it is when it comes to World of Warcraft.
Blizzard has barely done any temp bans for open world skirmishes.
I was not one of those people, and I’m not defending their behavior. Griefing’s not okay. But the fact of the matter is, now people who genuinely wanted a good event got shafted by Blizzard catering too hard to the feel-good mentality.
PvP’s been a thing in WoW for 16 years, and it baffles me that people still complain that it exists even after changes have been made to make it entirely avoidable.
A mmo is a ever changing world. You should not always have a choice. You should be force to adapt to the changes of said world. Always having the choice means the world adjusts to you not the other way around.
That is the most anti MMORPG thing.
The zombie invasion wasn’t a pvp event. It was just a stupid event.
Okay? So don’t participate. Some of us enjoyed it and did so without touching the delicate sensitivities of others… Obviously it’s not for you and that’s fine. You’re fighting an argument that can be reasonably had for both sides.
Let those who want it have a way to enjoy it. Let those who don’t want it have a way to continue about their business as normal. It’s not that big a deal.
The guards walk past the crates.
The guards turn into zombies.
The zombies infect you.
You turn into a zombie.
You get killed by the guards and have to run back.
The only way to not participate was to not play.
If the crate’s don’t exist outside of Warmode, then no problem. Then no guards turn into zombies. Zombies don’t happen. Anyone in Warmode with the condition and turns off Warmode loses the condition. Seriously, what’s the problem? This isn’t rocket science.
No problem, that’s why people wanted it only in war mode so people could opt out.
It was the “pro zombie invasion” people who ruined that idea. Take it up with them.
This is a circular conversation. Because you obviously don’t understand what I’m saying. MAKE THE INVASION HAPPEN IN WARMODE ONLY.
Problem solved!
Yes, that was repeatedly suggested.
The “pro zombie invasion” people vociferously objected, because they wanted other players to suffer.
Then let the griefers suffer. You’re labeling everyone who wanted the invasion as griefers. Not the case. Me? I wanted the invasion. Do I grief people? No.
I don’t get your logic because it’s overly generalizing.
I never thought I’d have a reason to turn on war mode, but the zombie plague would’ve got me to do it. Instead I’ll just farm rares on 20 minute timers and get a piece of gear an hour that will be replaced in the opening salvo of SL.
Really enjoyed the zombies on PTR when you had to fly up to the roof of a building and just survey the carnage. Not much would’ve got done but it was pretty neat. I remember the wrath event, I had fun griefing the battlemasters. Which brings us to the other kind of player. The one who begs you to go grief the other faction even though that’s functionally unfeasible. The point of a zombie plague is your own units turn on each other, it’s a zombie apocalypse, get in or get out.
See? This would have been fun. Isn’t the world dual-layered between warmode on and warmode off? So the warmode off instance wouldn’t be affected by any of it and therefore it wouldn’t be a problem.
I’m doing no such thing, I’m simply stating (correctly) that there was a big argument about this a few months ago, and the griefer crowd kept insisting that there MUST NOT be an opt-out like having it be only in war mode.