Premades in rated bgs?

What are they doing to it?

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Devs are their their technical wizzardry, I dono, never been a programmer.

RBGā€™s I have participated in or lead have been mostly fine but Blitz is full of toxicity. I must say most toxicity I have seen comes from raids and dungeons.

BTW: asking for skilled players or constructive criticism is fine, too many people take any communication as toxic these days.

Last night was some shady groups, experiment, fresh blitz 0cr on a geared alt, teams all moving as one highly coordinated like they were in voice. Not even close games, instant steam rolled. 1-7 last night on an alt, players are going 0-10ā€¦

If you queue after midnight, pvp gets real weird, thats the times the boosters prefer.

All of the Blitz conspiracy theories are wild to me. Is queue syncing, win trading, and carries going on? Probably. But I donā€™t think it is nearly as prevalent as people make it seemā€¦ And it isnā€™t something that is going to make it impossible to push rating or play the game. Maybe Iā€™m just ignorantā€¦

Really? I have had the opposite experience. Rbgs have been so incredibly toxic that I didnā€™t even want to play them anymore. Got to a point where I just wanted the bracket to die, which Iā€™m glad it finally is.

I was worried Blitz would be just as toxic as rbgs, but everyone has been on their best behavior. Itā€™s honestly been quite refreshing.

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The answer is yes making it not a conspiracy theory. Itā€™s very prevalent.

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Iā€™ll have to take note of the time next time. I live in Australia and most of my play time comes after 7pm once the kids go down. Like I said it wasnā€™t until 2k and up mmr. 1600 didnā€™t feel gated at all.

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Yeah Hirav is well known to be one of the main people doing this lol, itā€™s hilarious heā€™s always stalking the BG forums to spam nonsense claims that itā€™s not happening and that itā€™s not exploiting so that blizzard wonā€™t put the boot on his neck.

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I havenā€™t seen him sense Monday lol heā€™s always on here I wonder if heā€™s on a forums vacation or if heā€™s hiding.

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Nah, you can see his post history. Itā€™s been 3 hours since he posted.

Oh goodness look at his most replied haha he is obsessed with me XD

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I guess I just havenā€™t had the same experience. But Iā€™m also not going around worrying about it either.

Out of curiosity, what exactly are you using to track/detect these issues? How do you know how prevalent it is? Is there a certain mmr range or is it the whole backet?

There is no way to track/detect them, but all you have to do is observe. I have been playing this game for a long time and I have played a lot of pvp in my time, you can always tell when itā€™s an organized group by how they play. Also, the fact that the very people that exploit randoms are the oneā€™s coming in here and screaming about how it doesnā€™t happen and anyone that thinks so is just bad/blaming others for being bad just kind of makes it even more obvious. Especially when people like Hirav that could never break 1600 in now at 1800 early on in season one.

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Heā€™s making stuff up in his head is how heā€™s detecting it.

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What if it is just people playing off of what others are doing? There is a lot of information displayed in the game, even more so with the help of addons/weakauras. That may appear to be organization when it is actually just people using the information presented to them and playing with that info in mind.

Iā€™m just having trouble understanding how exactly you know for certain. Observations are great, but they could very easily be biased. Would be helpful to have some actual data.

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Sure, I do that all the time but thereā€™s things you will notice after playing for lots of years itā€™s hard to explain honestly. Sometimes teams are way to organized for it to be random. And donā€™t listen to the "oh they hop in discord or in game chat lol chances of that happening are so low, I get games where nobody on my team even talks lol

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The guy that lies and trolls and claims anyone that doesnā€™t agree with him is all the same person claiming someone is ā€œmaking stuff upā€ is straight up wild haha I get that you canā€™t comprehend anything outside of your echo chamber nor do you want to accept fact that goes against your narrative but some people just understand more then you and thatā€™s a part of life I hope someday you grow to understand that, but until then your childish trolling and gaslighting will continue to be exposed.

I just know I have personally done some things that seem ā€œorganizedā€ in games. When it was really just a combination of awareness and luck. That seems a lot more probable than the alternatives.

Believe it or not, I frequently see people asking everyone to get into the in game voice chat. But this is at high mmr which a much smaller pool of players. On my alt Iā€™ve seen it a lot less.

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True, if you play for a long time you pick up on thingsā€¦ How last expansion in shuffle suspecting most of the team was in voice together I hid as a stealth at the far corner of the map far awayā€¦ Sure enough they play fought no CDs nothing, and gravitated right to my spot, I went to the other side, same thing. People on my team were saying in discord he is over there.

Playing for a long time you can notice things, and test theories.

Another one in RSS shuffle last expansion was the que pops, the ones that get declined lead me to believe their queue sinc did not line up so they reset itā€¦ Knowing this when someone declines the queue pop, I would reset mine too. And it actually worked, I dodged alot of premades, 1800 easy on multiple toons. Only accepting matches that were a first time go no resets, though took alot more time waiting though was worth it not to get farmed by RMT boosters.

That does not work with Blitz though because 8v8 there are always people who decline the queue, but in shuffle however. Most times its 2 healers running the premade lining up queues, your que pops and is declined, chances are its boosters declining because their sync did not line up.

My Queue theories back in Dragonflight angered the rmt booster soo much they mass reported me, sent me on mandatory forum vacation for a bit lol. THATS how I knew I was onto something, their reactions on the forums say alot too. Just like days ago when the pvp queue tab went down, instantly BIG streamers made videos saying there is NO cheating in pvp lol.

Trying to play some games tonight with my bud and itā€™s nothing but sync exploiters such a pathetic state this game is in.

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