Blizzard please stop premades from joining bgs it gives them an unfair advantage and is ruining the game
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Yea itâs actually completely out of hand. About 50% of all BGs I enter are premades, including epic BGs. Itâs not competitive or fun in any capacity.
And particularly with epic BGs, even if you arenât running into an alliance premade, a horde premade can just as easily ruin the BG by not accepting a queue, and you start 20-40 players and itâs just a slow grueling loss.
I play random BGs for fun, and this really takes the fun out of it. Iâm not even sure how one sided battles where the other team just gives up in the first 3 minutes is fun for them either.
Most importantly, why is this so prevalent now? Thereâs nothing of value you can get from BGs at all, no interesting mounts or anything can be bought with honor. Is it just to grief/feel superior?
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They might be âtrying out peopleâ to see how they play for Rated Battlegrounds.
Seeing how Rated BGâs are going premades might disappear as well, Im just guessing so dont hold me to it.
But yeah , griefing or feeling superior is a possibility as well.
nerf premades
So currently, I am in the same boat. I love pvp. Pretty much all i do. Yet, these premades just ruin it. I am on Whitemane Horde side (not the original server i was on in wrath but my server died out and had only a couple options of where to move). I have geared a shaman and a rogue to max conquest and i am working on my warlock currently. I havent played much of classic, TBC, or wrath so most of my BG stats are from this xpac along.
Shaman: 88 wins 146 losses.
Rogue: 15 wins 16 losses.
warlock: 71 wins 116 losses.
I am trying to get my mainly PVE guildies to PVP more but most of them can only handle 2-3 games before getting frustrated and stop PVPing. Their average honor per hour is 400-600 because all we run into are full benediction premades. Not just 5 man but 10-15 mans. I know there are addons that help a full group of 10-15 people get into battlegrounds. Most of these people I see in the premade are winning 600-900 honor and if each match takes roughly 10 minutes we are talking about 3600-5400 honor an hour. It would take a new player on horde side roughly 6 times (on a good day) as long for them to get all the honor gear they need. Not to mention its probably very off putting for people trying to get into PVP.
Long story short. The current state of BGs is very off putting and not healthy for the game. New players or players who do not have as much time as me (I have a lot of time) will take weeks to get fully geared in pvp which means less geared people on horde side to compete with the full stacks of premades we consistently go against. I used to see premades and tell myself well this is a game where I am really going to have to try because of how rare it was. Now I see a premade and assume its an automatic loss. It just feels bad.
Suggestions: limit the amount of people that can que in a group for BGs. (It sucks because people are going to be left out but people are just ruining the overall enjoyment of the game because of this.)
Remove addons that allow for something that was clearly not intended. (If it was intended we would already be able to que up as a 10+ man.)
Only allow people who que as a group to go against those that que as a group. Solos to go against solos. (might make ques longer but its better then constantly getting stomped on.)
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Well thats why there is nobody new playing them.
Its the same sweats every single game no matter what time of day.
And then theyâll ask why no resources get used on pvp when its so dead mostly because of them lmao.
Which is fine if they want to spend their days griefing a dead obscure game mode getting little to nothing for it that an increasing # of people could give less of a toss about.
âWhy arent bgs getting any attention!!â âwhere are our rewards!!â
Well they are not coming the only rewards from bgs will be tied to blitz as they rightfully should be.
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long gone are the days of logging in for some random battle grounds and chill. Now the premade RBG teams honor farm epic battle grounds. RIP
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I agree with you. Battlegrounds are meant to be that entry level so people can gear up. We have a long time before classic MOP comes (if it comes). This is the perfect opportunity to implement some new ideas to help the health of PVP. I love competition but when it is in such a way where it feels like an auto loss every time there is no point. If blizzard wants it to thrive they should ask the people that play it every day to help. Get a bunch of people from the premades and a bunch of people not from the premades and ask us what we can do to make this healthy again. Rewards. balance. better matchmaking. waiting in que sucks as a DPS but i would 100% wait a bit longer if it means i actually had a chance at winning.
OMG all the whiners. 40 man BGs (originally it was only Alterac Valley) had an INSTANCE NUMBER so people could queue up for the version of AV their friends were in. Thatâs how we had EPIC 3-4 day long Alterac Valleys!!! It still is the glory days of PVP in WOW. Blizzard has actively tried to destroy 40 man fun since they decided to remove the instance numbers for each AV. Pretty sure they thought it was progress but it was not. The rise of AV Enabler so we could still play WITH our friends. Blizz broke it set it to only 5 man parties. But we sync queue and still do it. Then they came with War Games for Premades but gave ZERO REWARDS FOR IT. Then they released CLASSIC and AV had instance numbers again! Yay! For about 30 minutes then they repeated their mistake and broke it again. IF Blizzard would recognize that 90% of epic bg players WANT to queue up as a 40 man raid - give us a version we can.
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Itâs almost like Blizzard doesnât want premade raids in random bgs.
Blizzard was aware that players would abuse War Games for easy/free rewards.
Iâm sure it seems like 90% for premade raiders. Iâm guessing the missing 10% is when youâre on a pug team?
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well well well look who it is.
does hydra even run epics anymore?
you never hear âoh noes it the hydra premade!â
Thatâs good because it didnât take very much foresight to see that it would be abused.
And you donât get very much rewards from epics either you literally get a pittance of conquest and maybe 1k honor for a 2 hour game.
Well itâs not about what you want itâs about what blizzard wants.
Blizzard is almighty in here and their will is unquestionable.
Iâm sure many premaders would love to return to the griefing days of old where you would sit in the enemy cave and force pugs out of the portal. But itâs not happening.
Should all be hailing our overlord that recognizes griefing and quashes it where ever they see it.
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I posted about this yesterday. I am getting GY camped and waxed immediately.
Yep, we sure do.
Dear Blizz,
Please que premades into full tank teams, pref bear druids and blood dks.
K thnx.
Everyone has the right to be wrong and all you âaginnersâ have the right to hate premades as much as the premades love grouping up running STRATEGIES, following a lead and playing the bg the way it was designed to be played and not be stuck with a bunch of players with either zero clue about pvp and bg mechanics or worse yet do not care about winning. When they removed the AV instance numbers they basically permanently ruined epic battlegrounds. Simple fact.
There are literally screenshots of you and your premade back then griefing random players in the cave in av and knocking them out of the portal.
Premades usually always end in toxic gameplay that blizzard has decided is bad for the game and rightly so.
Countless examples of it to in bfa the premade raids just sitting flight points for no reason.
taking the siege to the default gy in ioc to farm random players down to 0 when they could win the game at any point.
Before warmode was a thing premade raids sitting in cities for hours making it impossible for people to just do what they want to do whether it be using the ah or something else.
Probably why they ended up adding warmode so that people could opt out of all that if they wanted to⌠instead of what we had before which is where you were forced into it without a choice if you were on a pvp server.
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Rolling on a pvp server was the choice.
You are the biggest whiner of them all. Complaining when we are winning even.
Basically you have the old toxic playerbase desperately clinging on to a company and a new playerbase that wants nothing to do with them.
Idk how much more ovbious it can be made that the game isnt for them anymore.
From the story to solo shuffle and lfg to warmode to the current design philosophy of the game moving further and further away from group content and griefing.
At least retail isnt you still all the classic era servers i guess.