It was better than LFG because not everyone had it 
. EDIT: Didn’t even see FF’s post before I wrote that.
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win trading? in randoms?
Are you really surprised?
We’re talking about a group of people who sit in a community chat and do countdown timers on when to queue… and drop queue, in order to manipulate Blizzard’s system. I’ve seen these people have up to 8-10 healers. Yet, they talk about competitive, competent gameplay as the reasoning. Do you you guys actually buy that? lol.
Some of you have no idea how toxic these people are to the game. Blizzard removed the ability to create large groups for that reason - their mistake was - they trusted their player base to not find a loophole that allows them to abuse the system. They will do ANYTHING to have an advantage. Winning makes them feel good about themselves - it makes them forget that they keyboard turn, click and back peddle. Unfortunately, nothing will be done in Dragonflight. IF Rated Blitz is a success - I believe Blizzard will be more willing to make everything cross faction. Keep complaining, keep reporting, and when Blitz is officially released - help make it a success.
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nobody in those coms are win trading epic wins thats ridiculous.
hydra did it “back in the day” for silly cheeves like We Had IT All Along in AB but they were doing it for the pug players benefit.
the only reason people run with premade communities is because of how complacent the general player base has become. for the most part pug groups are terrible. everyone thinks their strategy, if they even have one, is best and it just 10/15/30/40 people doing whatever they think is correct. or maybe even not focusing on bg objectives at all.
id rather play with people who want to win.
He claims he wants to play with people who want to win… yet, these communities avoid creating Rated Battlegrounds. Why? Because they’d end up playing against other coordinated groups that will stomp them into the ground. Rated Battlegrounds are created for strategy, and for people who ‘‘want to win.’’
The truth is - they want to play with other bad players that want to win… by stomping pug groups with less healers… and less coordination.
You cannot have a conversation with these people… It’s insane. They actually believe what they’re saying. I’ve said what I had to say. KEEP COMPLAINING, KEEP REPORTING… AND help make Rated Blitz a success once it’s released.
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keep reporting……. teamwork?
No. Keep reporting the people who abuse/manipulate the queue system in order to get into premade groups… a feature that Blizzard disabled a while back.
They won’t get banned… or suspended, nor should they be.
But eventually, Blizzard will make everything cross faction… forcing premade communities to take their ‘‘winning strategy’’ into Rated Battlegrounds… where they will lose, and their fun will end.
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making bgs randomly cross faction, like in blitz, wont change much. there is very little “good guy vs bad guy faction war” animosity. if 40 premade com players get split 20/20 per side what makes you think they wont have fun playing against their wow friends? the types of players who get bent out of shape over losing to people you regularly play with are usually filtered out of the communities eventually.
This is how it works.
You go into a premade community… and they do a countdown timer, as a way to manipulate the system (which was disabled by Blizzard) in order to get as many back peddlers in the same group as possible. They’ll also tell that large number of people to DROP, DROP, DROP… which will leave the current game 38-8. That’s gameplay disruption. The problem is - nobody but me seems to be taking screenshots, and reporting this issue to Blizzard on Twitter. People want to complain on these forums.
You want to play with friends? Fine. You want to win? Fine… but even you must admit that these people are abusing the system. They are manipulating the queues. IF Blizzard wanted you to create premade groups for Random Epics - why did they disable it? These premade leaders won’t do Rated Battlegrounds, because they would win 2 games out of 10 - showing that they’re not actually good at leading anything. and their members aren’t actually good players. They just win vs. pug groups with less healers, and less coordination.
It’s disgusting - but it’s human nature
I’ve fought many of these premade players 1v1 - and they get annihilated. Because, I’m a 1v1/WPvPer who doesn’t rely on anybody… They do. So, it’s not a fair fight.
I’m done discussing this… I NEED HELP FROM PEOPLE WHO WANT THIS TO CHANGE… But talking on this forum? lol. It’s meaningless. Twitter is where change happens.
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This is the obvious answer they always ignore. If Blizzard intended it, there would be one simple way to queue 40 people simultaneously. Instead, they have to jump through hoops to make their exploits work.
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ill ask again
Ego.
These premade leaders truly believe they’re good at leading - but they’re not. The members of these premade groups truly believe winning = skill. It doesn’t. You simply have more numbers. If these people go against each other, or Rated players - the losing will rot the communities from the inside. I’ll say it again - THEY DO NOT WANT TRUE COMPETITION. True competition will show player flaws - and player flaws will deflate player egos.
Take me for example… I don’t do Arena… I only BGs, 1v1, an WPvP. I live for 1v1 fights… Why? Because I know I’ll always win. If I do Arena, whether it’s my fault or my partners - I’ll start to lose. I don’t mind losing BGs - as long as I win my 1v1 fights. My ego is based around that.
IF these communities are forced to fight each other - the premade community will die.
I promise you.
And they deserve it.
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epic bg’s aren’t based on 1v1’s maybe that’s where you’re getting confused.
Ego isn’t limited to 1v1. It’s everywhere.
Make these ‘‘leaders’’ face each other. Make these players face each other.
Once player flaws get exposed - drama will take over. Drama kills communities.
When Cross Faction is implemented, and it will be - premade communities will die.
Conversely, if Blizzard didn’t, sync queuing would have been spiked long ago.
Never seen it happen in one.
Another refuses to play with a community that celebrates abusive behaviour and members. (Not all of them. Some good peeps still toughing it out. Increasingly less so.)
Actually, edit that: a community whose leadership celebrates abusive behaviour and members. It’d be wrong to suggest all members support it.
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And pugs don’t want to win?
Recently, someone told me premade raiding in random bgs was sanctioned and supported by Blizzard.
Yeah… You can tell Blizzard supports this because they disabled raid queuing. It makes sense if you don’t think about it.
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the andrew tate is strong with this one.
gross.
No translation and rare praise for the self-recognition.
The communities are made from pugs, I feel like most of them are there to avoid having to face organized pugs with pugs. Like a snake eating its own tail.
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interesting 
EDIT: Side note i now have 12x wins in 1st place 
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