Preach A Conversation w/ Ion... Additional Thoughts

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@Rexxington-area-52

Blizzard pretty said and stood by the same thing with azerite, where choice doesn’t matter and so forth. Yet they tuned azerite so strongly that it became rotation breaking if you ran the wrong azerite.

A major difference is also the fact that azerite is RNG, you gotta hope you get lucky and get 3x trait so people who coudnt were left behind, covenants on the other hand are a choice, no rng involved so by design they are gonna excel in some areas, be weaker in others but in a sense be more balanced because no rng is involved. (Because apparently Blizzards includes rarity when balancing power, aka how they let gushing wounds be OP af simply because it was rare pre vendor)

In addition Azerite once again similar to covenants excel in one area more than the other, yes I would love to stack 3x shadow word pain traits but that is rly weak single target wise, if it was good single target wise it would be utterly broken aoe wise.

@Rexxington-area-52

Then essences added.more fuel to the fire as it added even more potent abilities to our rotation that further added to the desparity they were trying to prevent.

Essences assisting with some classes and opened up more ways to play with, like blood of the enemy being rly useful for burst moments, again their goal is to have different things for different PLAYSTYLES, not different SITUATIONS, for example their goal is if someone is into huge bursting moments of course they are gonna choose blood of the enemy, and these people would excel at fights that require bursting down adds etc but will not excel in sustain dps.

Again if you sim everything by 5min patchwreck of course 1 thing will excel, the whole point is that some excel in different playstyles.

@Rexxington-area-52

With the final nail on the coffin being corruptions which failed so badly initially given how powerful they were. Which forced them to add the vendor to fix it.

Corruption goal was clear imo, they knew people would just stack 9x same corruption if a vendor was a thing, they wanted people to try out different builds based on what they get, of course that lead to the obvious RNG problem where someone gets 9x gushing wounds and the other person gets 3x void ritual, 3x avoidant and 3x masterful rank 1.

So their plan on making people try different things failed because of how unbalanced rng is, and again covenants are not RNG, you are gonna

Will balance problems be a thing? certainly, but I ll always support more rpg elements than less choices, and with covenants being locked

@Kurog-grobbulus

Your gonna say oh aoe god, ill choose this but the balance is gonna be so bad. It will be aoe so wimpy I might of well have chosen ST god cause it is more then useless.

And if that happens it is unintended and they will attempt to fix it.

Which of course is gonna cause many ragequit threads from meta slaves when their meta covenant gets nerfed, no worries made a thread in preparation for when that happens

It was your choice to jump on the meta covenant

Therefore you only have yourself to blame when the meta covenant gets inevitable nerfed and you have wasted your time grinding it. I am making this thread for future reference because it is an absolute certainty that we ll see threads like “You nerfed my covenant, I am quitting” or “my character is worthless now that you nerfed my covenant” during the first 6 months of shadowlands so feel free to bookmark this for future reference. Here’s what is gonna happen: We ll have streamers/youtubers …