Possible idea to help raiders switch to Alliance

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Make bosses give lots of rep to a rep faction that’s really hard to grind and is very important(would help benefit human racial diplomacy)
Rather than instant ressing at the entrance, bring corpse runs back and make corpses runs 5-10 minutes long after wipes.(night elves could be very important with shadowmeld to drop aggro and reset fights to prevent wipes, racial is only 2 minutes long so it can be used practically every time)
Give bosses more physical stuns that is very dangerous and can kill very easily(would benefit from human racial EMFH to escape and save yourself from an otherwise death from stun)
Give bosses more bleeds that are very deadly.(dwarves could benefit via their racial since bleeds can’t be dispelled)

Basically what I’m saying is, make bosses designed around the racials of Alliance races. Might get more people switching over to Alliance for mythic progression and then more will follow, giving Alliance more raiders for all levels of raiding.

Would this be a good idea?

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why do you want people to switch from horde to alliance? theres so many horde players because the dev’s are all pro horde and write the story just for them.

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I think your idea would be successful mate but imagine the unstoppable deluge of Horde tears about the Alliance needing their hands held by Papa Blizz.

Actually, I think we should implement this just for that reason…

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if having a collection of pixels isnt your thing and you wanna raid
sorry but your gonna have to go horde
ally cant get 3/8M done
well maybe 5 guilds can, but good luck them having space unless your a no lifer
and honestly: they are STILL really bad. i have left 3/8M guilds cause i couldnt believe how bad they were on ally side
im still an ally tho, as i play for the art, i like ally art

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The alliance is the Boy next door with the stable job and nice family and the Horde is the Big Handsome guy who has a rich family and ends up with all the girls.

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This excuse is just false after this expansion. The alliance have gotten nothing but wins and good writing this expac.

Meanwhile the horde was forced into starting the war and forced into another civil war, all while failing in our zone quests and warcampaign.

I think the alliance have been getting enough bribes to switch. We don’t need to give them even more hand outs.

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So the Alliance is the guy you actually want to marry because he’ll treat you right and won’t sleep around?

Your analogy defeats your argument…

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The Horde still gets you first and for your best years while the alliance gets the tasty leftovers.

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I honestly don’t even know what that means.
Carry on, I guess.

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I don’t really either.

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This sounds like a solution in search of a problem imho.

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Nope. The devs dug themselves into this ditch and have continued digging. Now there’s no way to climb out. Community perception is the key to this solution and right now, the only perception that matters is that Method and other top guilds are Horde, and that the recruitment scene for Horde is stronger.

If there was a reason for Horde to start playing Alliance characters, shadowmeld on Night Elves should have done it. An entire group with Shadowmeld/shroud/invis/whatever could avoid reaping and get through m+ dungeons much quicker than almost every other comp! If that didn’t do it, then nothing will. There is absolutely nothing that will fix this unless the world first raid guilds decide to roll Alliance. It’s all about perception.

On a side note, I laugh whenever players bring up AOO as being the solution to get more people playing Alliance and turning on WM. Do people not realize that AOO gives primary Horde players an incentive to level/gear their Alliance alts. Hellur!? Double agent is a thing. When it goes away, they just go back to playing their Horde mains. The Horde has an equal opportunity to control when Alliance receives AOO. We’re not all faction locked here…

While I’m all in favor of ideas to encourage raiders to switch to Alliance, I believe it’s too late and well beyond the Devs to fix this imbalance. There would have to be a crazy imbalanced incentive, but like another poster mentioned, then you’ll get the QQ across the forums and Blizzard can’t have that :smirk:

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Giving bonus incentives to play a mode for one faction or the other is a failure in game design and balance.

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Well I mean there is one other solution…
Cross faction raiding. I don’t know if the majority of players would like that, but it’s the only other way without causing too much trouble.

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I’ve considered that before. Though I’m always curious how many players would welcome that concept vs. those that would quit over something that could ultimately save the Alliance raiding community, as dwindled down as it is.

I’m almost wondering if BfA is leading up to something like that…

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It might. Some people have been speculating the factions just being removed all together, but we’ll see eventually what happens and how they deal with it.

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Kill the factions altogether, merge all of the realms together, remove all of the racials and force all players to flag for PvP, where everyone who’s not you is red.

That is my counter of a “good idea”.

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Wont happen

Blizzard is the Horde and the Horde is Blizzard. Alliance will never be on top again…ever

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I wouldn’t say that Mystic. Alliance is currently winning the war and the Horde might lose a 3rd Warchief or possibly one of the other leaders.
Blizzard has just made horrible decisions over the last several years, that’s it really, and it has came back to bite them.

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When you have horde raiders from top to bottom ‘‘usually’’ say that Alliance are _____ (insert expletive or something rude) then you have to wonder if it’s a community perception as well.

Horde is just the ‘‘edgy’’ thing people swarmed too for several differing reasons and it’ll be super challenging to start promoting more alliance-raiding.