Possible decrease batching window for tbc?

batching sucks

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I agree as it was meant for bad internet back then.

I’ve seen people teleport around while pvping giving me not in range to suddenly have them on top of me in bgs and wpvp which has been tilting. when lag becomes an advantage

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That happens in Retail also, its their crap laggy connection giving them some crazy advantages, and its super annoying.

Batching is indeed super irritating if you like really flawless CC, and that’s something that was very much possible in TBC, so maybe they did clean up batching a bit at that point.

IMO if blizzard was to drop the batching thing entirely few would notice and the amount of complaining about it would drop to zero. Win / Win!

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make the batch window the same size as retail please

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a lot of people are going to think “wow tbc gameplay is so much smoother for some unknown reason”

“oh no, my game is suddenly playing MUCH better, screech, no changes!”

1.12 batching does pretty well for modern internet. 1.13 batching that they “recreated” is trash. If you want batching to be removed just be aware that they will probably take a less strict approach to “no changes” than they already did in classic.

Meaning you will get another Pserver version of TBC most likely, sprinkled with “changes” made by the current dev team.

Might as well bury the project right then and there.

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lol, the worst thing to happen to classic was the ‘no changers’. Literally the worst. These games require significant changes to make up for how bad they are for our time period.

Why? #nochanges was an incredibly vocal minority. Most people would agree on changes that fixed known issues, or added some QoL to counter modern issues such as metagaming. Few players actually argue for the game to be a museum piece which’s sole purpose is to satisfy fading memories of a game from another era.

yeah i see this in retail a lot more often than here. it’s not batching, it’s the engine. and it is incredibly obnoxious.

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I’d like to see Blizz avoid trying to recreate decades-old technical limitations for the sake of purists.

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I’m not a no changer, but I can see the argument. The more you open that door, the more changes will be demanded by another minority.

I don’t think most no changers were really proponents of bugs, etc. It’s just that they don’t trust the devs or the playerbase to not turn classic into retail 2.0. It’s a valid concern.

Sure if we’re talking complete unknown changes that would be a valid concern, but that’s not really the case for batching vs no batching.

Absolutely agree that batching should not have been a thing, and that it would have been a very well understood change.

I’m just saying that I know where the no-changes crowd was coming from. It’s like Blizzard and much of their vanilla loving community have been in this dysfunctional relationship for the past 15 years, and Classic/Vanilla is their baby. Blizzard disappoints over and over, and every time they come back and bring the vanilla playerbase flowers and tell us “hey baby, I’m really sorry, this time will be different. I’ve changed, I promise!”

The no-changers I think are just to the point of saying “nah, we’re done, you just leave me and vanilla jr. alone!”

What’s particularly annoying about it is that adding batching to classic was the change. It wasn’t added until late beta and classic played so much better before it was added. Not only that because we’re not on the actual vanilla server engine the junky batching we got isn’t even the same as batching was in vanilla.

The batching we have now functions exactly the same way it did in Vanilla. The “junky” batching is Vanilla batching. It was bad in 2006, it’s bad now. Why do some people think that going back to an archaic action processing system from 2004 would somehow be a good thing?

It’s bad now, it was bad back in Vanilla.

Except for the fact that it doesn’t function the same.

I love how you call #no changers a minority as well as make up some bs on how many people want or do not want a musem piece.

Stop making stuff up. Thanks

Yeah, you keep saying this and have never once provided evidence. It’s like deja vu, it’s almost like we’ve had this exact same back and forth a dozen times.