Portergauge Video: What am i missing?

On wow twitter, Portergauge posted a video of Stormbringer and it actually looks pretty good. People keep saying youre not a lightning god but thats just what it looks like.

Whats the major problem with the Elemental Stormbringer? Id post the link but the Forum police wont let me.

dunno what video you are talking about.
The main thing of elemental stormbringer is about a new spell called tempest which replace your lightning bolt and it is weaker than lightning bolt. Does this make sense to you?

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Yeah but youre talking about numbers. Thats a valid criticism, but what ive heard is that people dont feel like a Thunder God while playing it.

But thats what it looks like to me.

In the Beta they can tune Tempest. But i was led to believe that spec doent function as advertised.

If you are talking about the animation, no tempest doesnt make you feel like a thunder god and this is a pretty much a objective opinion.
If you are saying stormkeeper makes you feel like a thundergod, ok but that has nothing to do with the hero talent stormbringer.

Maybe im calling it the wrong thing. What’s the hero talent path for Ele/Enhancement?

Its stormbringer and the only thing thats new in that tree is a new spell called tempest. Its animation is 1/10 if you ask me idk why u think it will make ppl feel like a thundergod.

If you go to Twitter and search for Portergauge, he has a video up

I dont have account on twitter so i cant see it.
The backbone of stormbringer is tempest and it doesnt interact with any of the talents in our spec tree so its not fun to press. It does negative damage so it is not fun to press. It proc randomly so it is not fun to press. It looks garbage so it is not fun to press.
Can u tell me which part/talent node of stormbringer you think it is good?

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If you watch their video, all they are doing is casting chain lighting, tempest when it’s up and earthquakes.

I assume they are specced into lightning rod there, as you can see it’s procs with the small lightning bolts coming down when chain lightning is cast after earthquakes. Oh also they are also probably using arc discharge from stormbringer too, which acts as a pseudo stormkeeper, in that after tempest it lets you cast 3 instant chain lightnings in a row.
The only new animation in it is the one right at the beginning, everything else is something Elemental can do already.

So while it looks kinda neat, the only new animation is clearly seen at the beginning where his troll has his arms up casting the quick little lightning bolt that comes down from above and makes the lightning orb explosion.

And they aren’t even casting the full lightning rotation, ignoring that we still need to use flameshock, lavaburst, and for that side of the tree, icefury and frost shocks, for the kinda awful debuff juggling that we need to do for maximum damage

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This is what i was after. Thank you.

Alright so then the “rework” that we need is mostly getting rid of the jank, right?

Personally i hate Icefury and always have but for some reason they want to keep it.

The main issue with tempest is that it doesn’t benefit from any of the multiple buffs we stack on lightning bolt during the rotation, therefore being significantly disruptive. Surge of power, stormkeeper, power of the maelstrom, etc all wasted on tempest.

Plus you need 3 different weakauras to track the different tempest proc mechanics and the 50 second stormkeeper timer. It’s a mess.

And i think that needs fixing asap. But that doesnt require a rework, no?

Again, would love to see Icy Fury changed or removed.

It would require tempest replacing a different spell for elemental, it would require an entirely new node to replace rolling thunder, and it would require both methods of tempest acquisition to be either reworked or presented with new UI elements. There’s also the issue of the DR being attached to a spell that we want to cast immediately instead of when needed, an ST/AOE choice node which is unacceptable, a constitutive AOE slow which hurts us in dungeon content… yeah I think it needs a rework.

For what it’s worth, I enjoy icefury. I think the spell is only so divisive because ele spec design itself is very confused and underdeveloped.

Can you link the video of how he’s playing it? Because the actual rotation uses more fire, ice, and earth spells than lightning spells. That’s what’s meant by it not feeling like a lightning hero talent, there’s only Lightning Bolt and “upgraded” Lightning Bolt in the rotation.

Edit: Found it, he’s just spamming Chain Lightning on AoE target dummies, not doing an actual rotation.

Goodness, if that video impresses you…

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It did. Not as much as your manners. But it was up there.

Try seeing what real classes can do in alpha/beta then, you might be shocked.

Oh lord, than pun slayed me. Well done, my friend. Well done.

Totally unintentional, but if you want to see what AOE can look like, check out a Warlock using Shared Fate. Absolutely demolishing AOE to put shaman to shame.

its mostly the animation. Tempest is just a small little blob of white lightning and not much else. I think a lot of people we’re hoping for something massive in the animation department. Tornados, lightning falling from the sky, lingering effect. The current animation isn’t that.

After that its just not a super cool tree talent wise. The 3 free chain lightnings are cool, but DF tier 2 set bonus and the lame defensives are doing it no favors. Thunder gods are exciting and innovative, stormbringer is neither of those. Its not horrible, just really meh

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