I just installed an RTX 4090 and thought performance would be awesome but it turns out its crap. Open world i am looking at 75-120FPS. In Valdrakken 40-60FPS… what gives I know its not the system as I have tried other games and it is utterly amazing.
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What’s the rest of your system specs? What settings are you playing at? What resolution?
Your performance levels look reasonably typical, especially if you’re running with ray-traced shadows enabled. It’s also highly probable that you’re hitting CPU bottlenecks, and depending on what you upgraded from, you were possibly CPU-bottlenecked at many points before installing a 4090 as well. It’s not possible to say that with certainty without knowing more about the rest of your system/upgrade, however.
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Its a blizzard issue man they still haven’t fixed anything not looking good
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Looks like this was moved to Tech support. Did you test the game on a default UI Harbynger? You can do that as a test then go back to original WTF settings if it doesn’t help.
Resetting the WoW User Interface - Blizzard Support (battle.net)
To return original settings simply remove the OLD from your previous WTF folder then delete the new folder that the launcher installed. Might not hurt to open the advanced troubleshooting link then run the Cvar command found there.
As Kodiack mentions would be good to gather up some more information. DXDiag system report would be the start there:
Obtaining System Files - Blizzard Support (battle.net)
Only the DXDiag is required. Ignore the MSinfo section.
Let the DXDiag run until the green loading bar is finished. Then use the Save Information button.
That will be a wall of text - paste it on Pastebin.com then provide the link. To post links on forum you will need to contain them in a code block. Highlight link then use the </> function on the chat header bar.
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MVPs trying their best, when I’ve tested over 40 high end systems by now at work since pre-patch went live, and it’s NOT on your end.
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Ryzen 9 5950x
64GB DDR4 3600
CPU is def not a bottleneck issue
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I built it myself and as you can see its def nothing to sneeze at lol, so here ya go:
The problem is how Blizzard deal with cities like Veldrakken, Stormwind, Orgrimmar where a lot of players congregate.
My potato system hits 75 fps in the world even with world bosses or the siege with lots of players in a small area. No major hits to fps even when players are shooting off spells and skills everywhere.
But as soon as I hit the city Veldrakken, my fps gets hit down to 45-65.
Nothing I have done over the years has changed it at all.
I believe it’s nothing to do with your graphics card but to do with the CPU dealing with a lot of data and slowing the graphics card down when rendering everything. It’s not whether your CPU is top of the line or a potato, it is the coding of the cities when there are a hell of a lot of players there.
It is, actually. I had a 5950X with a 4090 and the 5950X was frequently the bottleneck, because WoW doesn’t scale much beyond a few cores.
I recently swapped to a 5800X3D and it dramatically improved performance. I’m still often CPU-bound, but the 4090 is getting more of a workout and the experience is much smoother.
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That may have something to with your setup as most benchmarks show the 5950x out performs the 5800x3D.
The issue is 10000% on Blizzards end.
It depends on the use case. The 5800X3D is substantially faster in a number of games, including WoW. There’s some gaming-oriented benchmarks here:
WoW in particular is a game that scales well with memory speed and with the large L3 cache on the 5800X3D:
https://camo.githubusercontent.com/651f8c80105d980444251a170b94765e1e06205decd977e42ec3cd4ecebf7e2f/68747470733a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f67426e546c534a2e706e67
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Well I see a huge flaw in this because most people I have talked to have barely been seeing 100-125 FPS NVM 253+ so I am going to have to call BS on those numbers.
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hi,
i just switched from a 3090 to a 4090 @ 1440p and the performance is basically the same.
It’s def not your 4090 or mine as other games have huge gains.
pretty disappointing though for sure 
I also have a 5950x I think that is bottlenecking performance as some others in this thread have said.
That’s just flight path FPS. Framerate in cities and in raids will be much lower.
FWIW, I saw similar FPS on my 5950X to what you’re seeing currently. FPS increased with the 5800X3D, but there’s still drops in busy/populated areas. Those are just performance limitations of the game engine currently, and that type of performance is typical in many popular MMOs.
Additional optimisation would be very nice, but in reality your FPS seems pretty normal at the moment. Hopefully one day there can be some client improvements that further increase FPS, though I don’t anticipate you’ll be able to tangibly increase framerate without lowering settings like view distance.
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The recommended CPU is way below a 5800X3D (8086K/4700G is highest end for those CPU generations mentioned in official SRs), but I’m glad you at least acknowledge the game engine is a problem.
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WoW benefits from the 5800X3D more than almost any other game. The increase is actually pretty epic. I personally moved from a 5900X (with PBO, etc tuned to the max) to a 5800X3D and the upgrade was bigger than when I previously switched from a 3900X to the 5900X.
This is a marketing slide from the Intel 13-series launch. Intel certainly has no reason to exaggerate the performance of an AMD CPU, especially when it trashes their 13900K. They even had to represent the performance of the 5800X3D differently compared to the other CPUs to make the beatdown look less severe.
Intel 13-series Marketing slide with 5950X and 5800X3D
Not all games show the same benefit from the 3D cache. WoW shows tremendous benefit. ~68% increase is insane. Most people would go nuts over a 15% increase. This following benchmark is compared to a 5900X, but keep in mind that the 5900X and 5950X are identical except the 5900X simply has 2 cores per CCD disabled.
Game Benchmarks, 5800X3D compared to 5900X
Make no mistake. The 5800X3D is currently the fastest CPU available for WoW, period. It’s faster than any of intel’s 13-series CPUs, and faster than all currently released AMD Zen 4 CPUs. The 5800X3D is faster than Zen 4 right now because AMD has not released any 3D cache Zen 4 variants, and it might not do so for a year or more.
There are also additional improvements that aren’t really obvious just based on basic FPS measurements. The massive amount of L3 cache that the 5800X3D has really helps to smooth things out. In this last picture, you can see the clear difference in frametimes, with each spike representing a micro-stutter.
If you currently have an AM4 motherboard, it’s a no-brainer to upgrade, especially if WoW is one of your main games. It’s not a super-expensive chip (you could probably make most of your money back selling your existing CPU on eBay) and you don’t have to buy a new motherboard and expensive DDR5. The huge amount of L3 cache makes the CPU much less dependent on RAM, basically erases any benefit DDR5 has over DDR4, and even allows it to work well with slower DDR4.
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Same problem, I have a 4090 bad performance in WoW. 3090TI and my 6950XT both out perform it in wow. Also noted both 6950XT and 3090TI will go to 100 percent utilization and the 3090 will go to 400 + watts. Also it’s supre smooth with both. CPU is a 7950X and other system is a 13900K. Its like the gpu is not being utilized correctly. Never goes above 50-60% and 300 watt usage even know framerate is bad on a samsung G9 monitor. It’s like it’s stuck in DX11 mode and its also not smooth.
Disabled IGPU on 7950X fixed. Now uses up to 90 percent
Yeah it’s really weird. The 4090 is a massive improvment from my 3090 in every single game except WoW. My gpu util is around 30-50% typically. I know my 5950x is bottlenecking it but its really confusing how the 3090 performed slightly better ….
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The best graphics card in the world dont mean mothing if ur internet is slower. And wow isnt a 4k game. And also ur memory and ur processor and harddrive have to be decent
Computers are as fast as their slowest component.
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